Shotguns/Pistols/Muskets

[Andius]

Modern vehicles and buildings? That is going overboard for sure.

But I know when I look at the concept art of this game I do see guns, and I liked what I saw. I think asking the devs to go from very primitive weapons and tools to modern or post modern technology is freaking nuts. It would take huge amounts of work to progress the entire game system like that, and I don't think it would deliver a better product in the end.

However I think some primitive firearms and explosives could really add to the game. Some of the people who survive will remember the recipe for gunpowder, its not that hard. I don't know it off the top of my head but I know it involves saltpeter and sulfur. I'm sure just that knowledge would really speed up its rediscovery. I think it would be crazy to not eventually implement firearms. I mean those mountain man trapper and civil war style outfits just aren't going to be as awesome if we are stuck fighting with axes and knives forever. I bought the trial to this game because it looks like ripe ground to forge and empire. I would like to start small then work into a more organized society that will have things like primitive firearms and maybe even sabers.

I think adding little technological breakthroughs to the game here and there will really enhance the feeling of belonging to an evolving world where you are building back up from nothing.

[Hopibear]

No gunzz plxx...

Sticks and stones!

[Monfols]

Fun fact: A shotgun is 1700's was called a musketoon !
We might get guns we might won't get guns.
It is all about how we and the game evolve.

[Samuel]

No gunzz plxx...

Sticks and stones!

hmm yes a slingshot is a very good idea

[Salvadore]

Hate to say it, but im really hoping against firearms...

It sounds very optimistic, the way the combat mechanic is supposed to go, and guns would just ruin it. Think about it - EVERYONE would have them. Your chances of surviving an ambush would be slim to none. It would make all the player made weapons/armor useless. It would change the whole entire dynamic of the game even if guns/ammo were extremely hard to get. Id imagine that, if one had access to explosive materials, they would probably develop some type of grenade, right?

You would give up crafting of many things by making them irrelevant just to add crafting of firearms.

I love pvp and love guns...but its hard for me to say that sounds like a good idea.

[Chavoda]

Hate to say it, but im really hoping against firearms...

It sounds very optimistic, the way the combat mechanic is supposed to go, and guns would just ruin it. Think about it - EVERYONE would have them. Your chances of surviving an ambush would be slim to none. It would make all the player made weapons/armor useless. It would change the whole entire dynamic of the game even if guns/ammo were extremely hard to get. Id imagine that, if one had access to explosive materials, they would probably develop some type of grenade, right?

You would give up crafting of many things by making them irrelevant just to add crafting of firearms.

I love pvp and love guns...but its hard for me to say that sounds like a good idea.

Its a game, armor is armor no mather what weapon is used and how aswsome it be in rl. RPG..not FPS.
Bows will be in, pistols could be in. magic will be in. considering the amount of I wana have a simple pistol suggestions I suspect we will see them at some point. either placed in game by Jordi's vision or by the supreme crafters
Feature

Characters achieving the Supreme Master level of craftsmanship work with the Xsyon team to introduce a crafted item of their own design.

To me it reads: think of a Idea, if it fits the design we make it. could also mean get a unique version of a item that is already in the game recipe.. time will tell

[Shukano]

Seriously, just like Chavoda said, just cause they eventually add some sort of ordinance doesn't mean it can't be balanced.
The game is going to have ranged magic and you're worried about firearms? All of this can and will work. They just need time to test and work out issues, and they technically have all the time in the world. Remember, firearms take ammo and imagine ammo would be scarce.

I'm all for firearms, cannons, dynamite, and future technologies (ie: Model T vehicles, heck even bicycles) whenever we get around to that in the future. The game is supposed to evolve with the players so it can't stay in the Dark Ages forever. We're going to have to re-discover everything together again or choose not to. This will cause some interesting clashes between tribes that want to embrace technology and those that don't. Sounds fun to me...

[Thraz]

yes lets make guns and then we can evolve to lazors and then to giant aircraft that can travel out of our star system and we'll have an all out war with aliens then the war will destroy us again so we go back to being primitive beings lets do it!

but in all cerealnessicity no to the guns because everybody will be using guns instead of going head to head with axes, knives, and swords

[Andius]

Maybe. But realistic muskets have never been done before. You could make the inaccurate, 3 rounds a minute, etc. It would change up combat but would it entirely destroy it, or make everything but firearms irrelevant? No. People would use it to get off a powerful shot to weaken up their enemy (If it hits) before charging into hand to hand combat. Besides they already promised us archery so ranged combat is a given.

I personally would love to have a character with a longrifle. Would be so darn much fun.

Just like in real history. Hand to hand combat won't loose its relevance until you have firearms that kill quickly, get off a lot of rounds quickly, and are accurate.