Super size high acruacy Xsyon map.

[Cracky69]

Now that I'm finished with the full world map, how would the community feel about it's release? It does contain massive spoilers, keep that in mind.

I don't care anymore.

I've left the game because of all these maps - there is simply no point playing as a scout anymore.

[Book]

It's true that players aren't explicitly forced to use this map... but I think it's also true that once it's out there, it may leave those who don't want to use it at a bit of a disadvantage. When a map shows the location of various commodities, the player choosing to explore the world on foot is at a disadvantage. While it may take him a few days of exploring (having to avoid dangers along the way) to find a particular resource, another player using such a map can just run to the precise location within an hour of mists being lifted. Or a player who had found a nice, quiet, secluded spot may now be dealing with urban sprawl...

On the other hand, say Sparrow had developed a detailed map and chosen not to share it. Sparrow would now have this advantage all to herself, which would be ok I think since resource management and acquisition is part of this game. BUT, Sparrow chose to share this development openly and freely with the whole community. I don't think I would personally have had the technical ability to develop this map, nor should I be taking the time away from work to learn how to do so. By other players releasing these maps, I'm given the choice of whether I want to use it or not, understanding the risks of not using it if I prefer a bit of discovery and surprise. That may well wind up being the road I choose to travel, haven't given my own personal choice that much thought yet as I've been plenty busy with other projects in-game.

I'm sure Sparrow is not the only person able to develop these types of maps, and I think I'd rather have it fairly available to the community as a whole than having a single tribe develop it and keep it behind closed doors for their own advantage.

If developing such a map requires reverse-engineering of proprietary game files resulting in violation of the TOS... well, that's just above my pay-grade and for folks at Notorious Games to handle. I do think, however, that the intent was one of fair-play, not one of gaining personal advantage at the cost of other people's enjoyment.
Mens Rea should always be taken into consideration by those in position to judge.

[orious13]

I don't care anymore.

I've left the game because of all these maps - there is simply no point playing as a scout anymore.

Yeah there is. Just not as a "Terrain" scout. Not to mention their are more areas coming out then what they have currently mapped... I think (seeing the post in the dev zone). To quit the game because of this seems weird, especially from someone around since 2010.

[NexAnima]

Well, I'm still waiting to hear from the higher ups. If they say no, then I'll respect their wishes.

On a side note, While there is some discrepancies in the map that I haven't figured out yet, The map hardly gives you the ability to plot travel routes, nor does it give away secret resources other then the overabundant junk supplies.

[vorg]

And they aren't even finished with the map. They stopped working on it to fix other problems. To quite the game because there are maps is ..... Too many other better reasons then because there too many maps

[Sirius]

It's unbelievable the things this playerbase thinks are "unfair" or "cheating".

[NexAnima]

Actually, the world looks quite complete. At least the static world, which is what the map shows.

[Cracky69]

Yeah there is. Just not as a "Terrain" scout. Not to mention their are more areas coming out then what they have currently mapped... I think (seeing the post in the dev zone). To quit the game because of this seems weird, especially from someone around since 2010.

You're right I've been playing the game for ages. All that time I've enjoyed exploring. When I've met people in game I've sometimes told them stuff about where other Tribes are or where they can find more Junkpiles. It's really helped me to enjoy role-playing and immersion.

Most players now have no idea what it is like to suddenly find a really great scavenging spot, or suddenly discover a Tribe they'd not found before. It's almost impossible to get lost with the Map in front of you.

I actually spent about 3 months in game just mapping the zones and the rivers - and not by hacking files.

I've actually had as much fun in Xsyon as any game for ages just exploring (you see it's just not possible in any other MMO unless you play 24/7 from launch). I had hoped that learning the lay of the land, and the Tribes would be a possible play-style.

You're not the first person to criticise my reasoning. Still, I have more hours in the game than most people on this site and I can say for a fact that I thought the game was much better before these maps. As far as I'm concerned it has ruined the fun.

I'm pretty much decided the (new) community here is full of selfish macroers and cheats. I'm just glad I enjoyed the game with less to do for so long before all the spoilers arrived. Good day to you.

[orious13]

No I think the game might be more fun without maps (unless given a cartography skill), but I'm more interested in the 1000s of things we haven't seen yet. Actually I have barely even looked at the maps. In beta early February I was pretty interested in the "no coords" thing actually (don't flame me :P). I was learning the terrain instead of learning coords. Honestly if they have the map, taking off the coords might give you a bit of your exploration back...especially if they make cloud movement more random. There're just....1000s of other things to look forward to.

[NexAnima]

Well I got the "Ok" from the devs, but now after everything is said and done I want to work a little more on it. I'm not fully satisfied with its current state more so if it ends up being one everyone uses.