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blake378
02-02-2011, 08:59 PM
the title says it all just wondering how hard the animals are to find in this game

overhated696
02-03-2011, 01:05 AM
If you look for them, could take you some mins spot a den, buts not an easy task that i reach a spawn and stay there for 3 hours killing bears, you have to take time looking for a post with mobs, hunt them, and youll have to find another spot.

Saintbob
02-03-2011, 02:18 AM
the title says it all just wondering how hard the animals are to find in this game

Best advice Go into the mountains :D

whilst exploring the surrounding terrain, i went into the mountains to find my self swarmed with Bears, Deer and Fox's they are not everywhere, but if you go into the mountains you're sure to find some eventually.

aliksteel
02-03-2011, 05:47 AM
Right now there is only 4 type of animals, And they are added to the game by guides and dev's I think. When the world updater is add to the game this will refresh the world by adding grass, tree's and animals every day. This well be in-game by the time the game goes live in less than two weeks. There will be no spawn points to look for as there will not be any set spawn points in-game. When the system is up and running right, Animals will only spawn off of pairs of the same type of grown animals and be born as babys, And stay with there mothers till, Well I don't know when.

From the features list

Creatures

Xsyon is populated with player humans and non player undead, animals and mutants. Creatures can be hunted or become the hunter.


No set creature spawns or re-spawns. Animals multiply based on the current creature population. Undead never truly die, or do they?
Creatures gain experience and power, potentially evolving into legendary beings.
Creatures can overrun areas or be depleted.
Creatures gravitate towards different areas based on mood and weather.
Creatures driven to the outer reaches of the world mutate.
Creatures possess realistic loot. If you see armor or a weapon on a creature you can take it. Animals can be carved up for raw materials.
Creatures are a primary resource for crafters.

So hunting animals, Sometimes will mean you are hunting, And thats just cool to me.

Del137
02-03-2011, 07:17 AM
well, no problem with animals for me, saw raccoons, deers, coyotes and damned bears alot on exploring :)

blake378
02-03-2011, 07:17 AM
i plan on doing a lot of hunting in this game. sounds like its hard to come by spawns which i love i also plan on doing leather crafting not sure on the other choices probably toolcraft and arch

GuideMihr
02-04-2011, 12:34 PM
I didn't have the plan to post that here but anyway,I think this is the best thread atm.


Raccon:
The ideal raccoon habitat is an area with small stands of timber bordering corn and vegetable fields, and with water close by. Raccoons are omnivorous and will eat everythingIt's common to find raccoons raiding garbage cans and dumps.

Coyote:
The coyote's habitat can be anywhere. They are scavengers and hunters. They may live in forests, on the plains, or in deserts. As humans move into areas where they live, they are forced to find new places to live and hunt.
Food:They primarily eat small mammals, such as mice, voles, prairie dogs, eastern cottontails, ground squirrels, Fruits and vegetables are a significant part of the coyote's diet in the autumn and winter months.They catch cats and dogs.Coyotes will commonly work in teams when hunting large ungulates such as deer



Mule Deer:
They live in wooded areas as well as farmlands.The does (females) and the fawns herd together and then the bucks (males) form small herds of between 3-5.In addition to movements related to available shelter and food, the breeding cycle is important in understanding deer behavior and personality. The "rut" or mating season usually begins in the fall as does go into estrus for a period of a few days and males become more aggressive, competing for mates.
Foraging:
In summer, it chiefly forages on not only herbaceous plants, but also various berries (including blackberry, blueberry, salal, and thimbleberry). Mule deer are known to forage in summer on California Buckeye leaves, even though there is some evidence of that plant's toxicity.A Mule Deer doe grazing near the Devon Lakes
In winter, it forages on conifers (especially twigs of Douglas fir, cedar, Taxus yews, aspen, willow, dogwood, serviceberry, juniper, and sage). In season, it eats acorns and apples. Over much of its range, snow and ice cover many food sources and the food that is accessible grows slower. Its metabolism slows and it becomes less active to survive in an environment with less food.
Mule deer prefer to eat high amounts of fresh grass and populations tend to move up or down with those of their preferred foods. Mule deer rarely travel far from water or forage, and tend to bed down within easy walking distance of both. Young mule deer tend to forage together in family groups while bucks tend to travel alone or with other bucks. Most actively foraging around dawn and dusk, they tend to bed down in protected areas mid-day, but will also forage at night in more open agricultural areas, during full moons, or when pressured by hunters. Repeated beds will often be scratched level, about the size of a washtub. Temporary beds will seem little more than flattened grassy grounds




Bears:
Black bears typically live in largely forested areas, but do leave forests in search of food. Sometimes they become attracted to human communities because of the immediate availability of food.
black bear's diet consists of vegetation,insects,salmon,honey.They will prey on mule and white-tailed deer fawns in certain areas.
"seasonal lethargy." Black bears enter their dens in October and November.Winter dormancy in Black Bears typically lasts 3–5 months.They spend their time in hollowed-out dens in tree cavities, under logs or rocks, in banks, caves, or culverts, and in shallow depressions.

bruisie159
02-04-2011, 12:56 PM
i plan on doing a lot of hunting in this game. sounds like its hard to come by spawns which i love i also plan on doing leather crafting not sure on the other choices probably toolcraft and arch

The best place to get leather of all types is scrap piles. Unfortunately although u will get some leather from actuall hunting its by far more effiecient to pick up and sort scrap from scrap piles. Personally id like ths changed to make hunting necessary.

blake378
02-04-2011, 10:10 PM
i would love to see hunting made to be necessary. this game sounds like its taken everything i like in several other games and combined it into one

overhated696
02-05-2011, 12:27 AM
Its necessary at all, bonecrafters need from it, and im sure some other professions will.

bruisie159
02-05-2011, 06:33 AM
Its necessary at all, bonecrafters need from it, and im sure some other professions will.

currently only bonecrafters but im sure cooking will combine hunting fishing and foraging hopefully. Would be good to make it useful to leather workers too imo and make leather less easy to come by from scrap piles

Edit: i just remenbered a couple of tailor recipies that require animal heads too unless im mistaken

chaotix999
02-05-2011, 07:01 AM
Just remember, there are only so many scrap piles... At some point the only way to get leather will be the old fashioned way, get out there, kill something and skin it. With that said hunting will probably be an art of patience and some searching at times, how do you think people hunt now a days to catch animals unaware?

Armand
02-14-2011, 02:09 AM
I am extremely skeptical as to the sustainability of animal populations. Given that most players (who I assume will be in far greater numbers at launch) are unlikely to adopt any form of restraint in hunting (why would they anyway, seeing as they're only likely to feed competing hunters); the precarious spawning of animals through realistic mating patterns has me worried.

Bonecrafting is a resource heavy skill and very much impeded at this point by the difficulty of acquiring materials (carrying capacity,distance from camp and world hazards). Now, I can accept bone items being a rarity, but not one brought upon by the extinction of the animal population. I would hope that the Dev team has plans to keep us hunters busy, and not risk the nullification of hunting related occupations.

I understand that we are currently in a beta phase, and that many features are not present in game, but I am a little worried regardless. Our core hunting group has been covering vast ground to no avail these past few days. I truly do not want this to reflect what we have in store for the future.

If there is already discussion and clarification of this topic, I'd appreciate being linked to it.

Tchey
02-14-2011, 06:41 AM
I'm quite new to Xsyon but i've met several animals every time i go for a mountain trek. Several is like too much bears to stay alive more than 30 minutes if i'm not paying attention. Enough coyote to hunt easily every time bones are needed. Just don't stay close to the lake.

Armand
02-14-2011, 07:00 AM
I'm quite new to Xsyon but i've met several animals every time i go for a mountain trek. Several is like too much bears to stay alive more than 30 minutes if i'm not paying attention. Enough coyote to hunt easily every time bones are needed. Just don't stay close to the lake.

You haven't been anywhere north of the lake's equator in the past 24 hours then. Myself and many others can attest to having trekked from mist to mist without having encountered a single coyote. We wouldn't even dream of spotting a deer as of late.

Tchey
02-14-2011, 08:33 AM
Something like 16hours ago we were wandering north to the lake, between 1020 and 976 if i remember. Many bears around here, and some coyotes. We were not looking for them, they just were here, and some attack us.

Armand
02-14-2011, 12:28 PM
I'll take your word for it Tchey. There may have been some respawn by some guides after all.

BigCountry
02-15-2011, 05:57 AM
x2

need more animal spawns. bad.

wyldmagik
02-15-2011, 09:01 AM
You haven't been anywhere north of the lake's equator in the past 24 hours then. Myself and many others can attest to having trekked from mist to mist without having encountered a single coyote. We wouldn't even dream of spotting a deer as of late.

I killed 2 deers 2 large black bears and a coyote right near your camp setup last night, oh I also pilfered some tools out of one of your std packs where you were fishing etc.. :O

you actually have a bear cave quite close to you :D

FabricSoftener
02-15-2011, 10:26 AM
intresting read on some of these posts. It appears that wildlife population is different in different areas most likely for reasons we all can imagine.
With that said, I came accross animals fairly regularly when I was exploring. I will keep those locations to myself and my tribe mates though

Armand
02-15-2011, 01:41 PM
I killed 2 deers 2 large black bears and a coyote right near your camp setup last night, oh I also pilfered some tools out of one of your std packs where you were fishing etc.. :O

you actually have a bear cave quite close to you :D

We're kinda relying on manual/randomly timed guide reseeding. We did manage to snag a few bears and coyotes ourselves, but I assume our hunting group was expecting a little more.

Guess we'll wait and see how it all turns out at launch. At this point it seems to either be bad luck or timing.

blake378
02-15-2011, 02:20 PM
4 hours of roaming around in the deep woods and only found one bear today

Armand
02-15-2011, 10:48 PM
4 hours of roaming around in the deep woods and only found one bear today

Lucky for us we had something like 6 raccoons on the junk piles throughout the day. lol. Too bad though none of the bonecrafters had rolled any raccoon recipes.

vorg
02-16-2011, 01:00 AM
I had 2 adult raccoons come to play and while cleaning them up, 2 babies attacked. I got one and the other shot up a cliff we where next to. Saw a couple more on a junk pile aways off later.

BigCountry
02-16-2011, 06:50 AM
so what does the "Hunting" skill do exactly?

bodangly
02-16-2011, 07:33 AM
so what does the "Hunting" skill do exactly?


Its for skinning/deboning creatures.

BigCountry
02-17-2011, 07:31 AM
So the higher the skill the more skinning options when you right click the corpse? It seems at 5 or 25 points its the same options?