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KeithStone
02-21-2011, 10:33 AM
You shouldn't be able to own a scrap pile considering you can't fight the tribe for the resources that everyone needs.

With Tribe territories being safe zones the scrap piles should be outside the tribal territory where everyone can put up a fair fight for the resources we all need.

There are many ways to exploit this, so I'm not going to list them for people that don't realize it.
outfctrl
02-21-2011, 10:35 AM
Basically they are. I have gone through other tribes scrap piles starting out just to see if you can.
fishFUNK
02-21-2011, 10:35 AM
You act like there 3 scrap piles out there.
KeithStone
02-21-2011, 10:36 AM
Basically they are. I have gone through other tribes scrap piles starting out just to see if you can.

you can take from their pile, but they can kill you while you are doing it and you can't do anything about it.
KeithStone
02-21-2011, 10:37 AM
You act like there 3 scrap piles out there.

it's not the point of how many- the point is if tribe zones are safe havens then they shouldn't imo be able to have resources inside their zone.
blackzilla
02-21-2011, 10:37 AM
You act like there 3 scrap piles out there.

^^^ This qfex3
outfctrl
02-21-2011, 10:44 AM
you can take from their pile, but they can kill you while you are doing it and you can't do anything about it.

Sure they can, but they have to catch you first. Scope area out, wait till dark, sneak in, do a little scrapping, then sneak out. It is that simple. It seems like anything goes in this game now, why not steal? You can kill people and loot them for everything, right?
ifireallymust
02-21-2011, 10:45 AM
You shouldn't be able to own a scrap pile considering you can't fight the tribe for the resources that everyone needs.

With Tribe territories being safe zones the scrap piles should be FFA.

So big tribes will be able to send out droves of raiders all day every day to pillage the scrap heaps in other tribe lands, and if a small tribe or solo player or a big tribe with only a few people online tries to fight back, the entire raiding party can kill the defender and trot off to the next pile? Okay. But you all go evil as soon as you touch the heap. You don't even get to wait to be attacked. You're just all evil, as is your tribe, and your tribe land, and it takes a long, long time to change alignment, and any good player will get extra items for raiding your scrap heap, while neutral players can come raid you with no repercussions (but evil aligned players cannot). And while we're at it, how about your storage bins and buildings become attackable and lootable, day or night, regardless of who is online from your tribe and who is not. In a real struggling community, even a loose-knit one divided into tribes, people would organize and hunt down the raiders and take or destroy whatever they have. If the community failed to do so, the raiders would take over everything, and soon there wouldn't be tribes anymore, there would be a country.
fishFUNK
02-21-2011, 10:47 AM
it's not the point of how many- the point is if tribe zones are safe havens then they shouldn't imo be able to have resources inside their zone.

Why?
bruisie159
02-21-2011, 10:51 AM
You act like there 3 scrap piles out there.

Its because keiths tribe failed to claim one. I doubt he would have this opinion otherwise.
MrKrueak
02-21-2011, 11:02 AM
there are plenty of scraps around, as said just because it is ona tribes land doesn't mean you can't scavenge there. not all tribes will be evil, i'm sure there are those out there that would be willing to share their resources depending on your alignment.
KeithStone
02-21-2011, 11:09 AM
Its because keiths tribe failed to claim one. I doubt he would have this opinion otherwise.

i would have the same thoughts either way, and the choice to not claim one was chosen for some very specific reasons. And I'm not going to talk about that, scrap piles are not the only important things in the game.

The reason is this:

it's because of the exploiting that is soon to follow- there will be no available scrap piles to claim if you can claim them inside your territory.
KeithStone
02-21-2011, 11:11 AM
there are plenty of scraps around, as said just because it is ona tribes land doesn't mean you can't scavenge there. not all tribes will be evil, i'm sure there are those out there that would be willing to share their resources depending on your alignment.

i thought that about darkfall too lol - it will be the same here as well.