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KeithStone
02-22-2011, 05:46 AM
In order to select your preferred craft and be good at it, you still need to make sure you put the right points into the right starting skills. (you have access to all craft skills, but you may want to focus on 1 or 2 so that you can be the best at those particular crafts)

Here's a list of what each Base Stat deals with:

Strength:
Primary: Carrying Capacity, Combat Damage, Logging, Terraforming
Secondary: Bone Craft

Fortitude:
Primary: Energy, Stamana, Hit Points, Resistance

Agility:
Primary: Combat Speed, Jumping, Swimming, Climbing

Dexterity:
Primary: Basketry, ToolCraft, WeaponCraft, BoneCraft, LeatherCraft, WoodWork, Tailoring, Cooking, Firebuilding
Secondary: Logging, Fishing

Intelligence:
Primary: Poisoning, Healing, Architecture, Reading, Religion
Secondary: Scavenging, Foraging, All Crafts, Stealing

Perception:
Primary: Cooking, Fishing, Scavenging, Foraging, Hiding, Detection, Stealing, WoodWork, Fire Building

Charm:
Primary: Animal Taming, Tribal Leadership, Religion, Fail, Luck
Secondary: Hair Dressing

Spirit:
Primary: Healing, Cooking, Animal Taming, Faith, Religion, Experience
Secondary: Architecture, Basketry

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Adding points to the right base stats is going to be very important to be the best crafter in your chosen profession.

For Example:
If you want to be a specialized Toolcrafter, you're not going to put all your stat points into Strength, Fortitude, and Agility because this would give you no points where you really need them. (you can see on the list where a toolcrafter would need more points)

Note:
You can also subtract points from base stats to give you more points to put in something else.

zettoz
02-22-2011, 07:48 AM
I really want to do animal taming and healing but unfortunately they aren't implemented yet so it wouldn't be a smart move to invest in spirit/charm.

Kurpitsa
02-22-2011, 08:23 AM
How do you increase these stats or are the permanently set when you create your character?

KeithStone
02-22-2011, 08:29 AM
How do you increase these stats or are the permanently set when you create your character?

your base stats do not increase above their max.

FabricSoftener
02-22-2011, 08:30 AM
How do you increase these stats or are the permanently set when you create your character?

not sure how they increase but from my understanding the do increase, not drinking or eating will result in a stat loss as well as not doing things related to the stat (like not carrying heavy things for strength) however stats will naturally want to move back to their base, so if you fall below your base it will want to naturally grow up to base and the reverse is true as well.

KeithStone
02-22-2011, 08:33 AM
not sure how they increase but from my understanding the do increase, not drinking or eating will result in a stat loss as well as not doing things related to the stat (like not carrying heavy things for strength) however stats will naturally want to move back to their base, so if you fall below your base it will want to naturally grow up to base and the reverse is true as well.

i edited.

Kurpitsa
02-22-2011, 08:37 AM
So, if a group of 8 wants to be as effective as possible, shouldn't they all just invest every single point to one attribute?

EDIT: Ah, you can't go over 90 points.

KeithStone
02-22-2011, 08:46 AM
So, if a group of 8 wants to be as effective as possible, shouldn't they all just invest every single point to one attribute?

in a sense yes, but if you look at the list some of those skills are covered in more than one attribute.

zettoz
02-22-2011, 11:11 AM
Fortunately everyone can max out almost 4 stats to begin with if you get rid of the useless ones that you don't really need, I.E. spirit/charm

Sarantium
02-22-2011, 11:12 AM
KeithStone, would you mind clarifying exactly how primary and secondary stats affect skills? Nothing that I've read in the forums thus far has been very clear on this point.

Question #1: Does having higher primary and secondary stats for a particular skill impact only success rates or does it increase learning time as well (i.e. having higher stats would allow you to learn a skill faster given an equal amount of successful skill usages than if you had lower stats)?

Question #2: Will having lower primary and secondary stats make it impossible to craft the highest level recipes in each skill tree or simply increase potential failure rates?

Question #3: How much more of an impact do primary stats have on a skill than secondary ones? For example, will having a high base dexterity compensate for an abysmal spirit level when using a skill such as basketry or is it essential to have both at a high level for success?

I'm planning to sacrifice certain stats (mainly spirit and charm) during character creation in order to create a more well-rounded, combat capable character and have had difficulty determining exactly how stats work during my couple of days in game. If there is in fact no way to increase base stat levels then getting it right the first time is obviously a priority. Any help that you or anyone else could offer in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Haunt
02-22-2011, 11:35 AM
Fortunately everyone can max out almost 4 stats to begin with if you get rid of the useless ones that you don't really need, I.E. spirit/charm

It is a shame you don't need them though

Haunt
02-22-2011, 11:36 AM
not sure how they increase but from my understanding the do increase, not drinking or eating will result in a stat loss as well as not doing things related to the stat (like not carrying heavy things for strength) however stats will naturally want to move back to their base, so if you fall below your base it will want to naturally grow up to base and the reverse is true as well.

Where do you get your info on stats losss and regain?

zettoz
02-22-2011, 11:38 AM
It is a shame you don't need them though

Well you will just not at this time, the skills they affect are not implemented yet.

fflhktsn
02-22-2011, 11:42 AM
Hey, kind of off topic...what are your thoughts on giving every new player, a small ( i mean real small) basket on their back, something thats easy to spot as well.

This way they can store their tools in it, it will be easy to spot for them, and they will only need real baskets when they get situated enough to craft.

Just something to put on the ground near their homstead so they dont risk losing it all 10min into the game and having to reroll.

Just a thought...for the new players...

ifireallymust
02-22-2011, 11:46 AM
Hey, kind of off topic...what are your thoughts on giving every new player, a small ( i mean real small) basket on their back, something thats easy to spot as well.

This way they can store their tools in it, it will be easy to spot for them, and they will only need real baskets when they get situated enough to craft.

Just something to put on the ground near their homstead so they dont risk losing it all 10min into the game and having to reroll.

Just a thought...for the new players...

I like this idea!

KeithStone
02-22-2011, 11:50 AM
Hey, kind of off topic...what are your thoughts on giving every new player, a small ( i mean real small) basket on their back, something thats easy to spot as well.

This way they can store their tools in it, it will be easy to spot for them, and they will only need real baskets when they get situated enough to craft.

Just something to put on the ground near their homstead so they dont risk losing it all 10min into the game and having to reroll.

Just a thought...for the new players...

i'm not sure what you are talking about but you can empty your pouch, remove the pouch, then pick up a large bin and it will become your backpack- now you have a 50 slot backpack and you can still have 4 more pouches in the other slots.

KeithStone
02-22-2011, 11:52 AM
KeithStone, would you mind clarifying exactly how primary and secondary stats affect skills? Nothing that I've read in the forums thus far has been very clear on this point.

Question #1: Does having higher primary and secondary stats for a particular skill impact only success rates or does it increase learning time as well (i.e. having higher stats would allow you to learn a skill faster given an equal amount of successful skill usages than if you had lower stats)?

Question #2: Will having lower primary and secondary stats make it impossible to craft the highest level recipes in each skill tree or simply increase potential failure rates?

Question #3: How much more of an impact do primary stats have on a skill than secondary ones? For example, will having a high base dexterity compensate for an abysmal spirit level when using a skill such as basketry or is it essential to have both at a high level for success?

I'm planning to sacrifice certain stats (mainly spirit and charm) during character creation in order to create a more well-rounded, combat capable character and have had difficulty determining exactly how stats work during my couple of days in game. If there is in fact no way to increase base stat levels then getting it right the first time is obviously a priority. Any help that you or anyone else could offer in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

It's really hard to konw how base stats are going to effect every possible situation, especially since not all features are or have been implemented.

The only thing I can gues at right now is that if you want to be the master of your trade/crafts you will need the max amount of base stats for those primary and secondary that effect the particular skills.

fflhktsn
02-22-2011, 12:06 PM
i'm not sure what you are talking about but you can empty your pouch, remove the pouch, then pick up a large bin and it will become your backpack- now you have a 50 slot backpack and you can still have 4 more pouches in the other slots.

Im talking about your first 10min in the game. I havent been able to drop my leather sack on the groun, and doing so means i really cant do anything else. Im talking about a small starter basket that can be dropped on the ground right at the start. So that the noobs can jump into the game, store their valuable craft tools, and go explore...without getting ganked, losing them all and either rage quitting or rerolling.

It wouldnt be an advantage, or take away from basket crafters, just something small (like 6-8 slots) that could be place on the ground, to store their very valuable starter tools.

This has no effect on old players with access to crafted baskets, or total sotrage space. just a way for new players to keep their starter tools safe while exploring.

Sarantium
02-22-2011, 01:09 PM
OK, thanks for the response! I've enjoyed the fact that most of the numbers and behind-the-scenes formulas are hidden in this game but it does make it a little bit more difficult to figure out how everything fits together. Looks like I'll just have to throw some stats together based on how I want to RP my character and bend them to my will! :D

Kurpitsa
02-23-2011, 02:56 AM
I was reading the manual and I got the impression that these attributes only make it easier or harder to learn the skills they cover.


Your characterʼs attributes determine your characters predisposition towards different character skills. Having a high attribute score in one area will make some skills easier to learn and master, however, it will lower the attribute scores in other areas increasing the challenge of mastering other skills.

mappam
02-23-2011, 07:32 AM
I have not found any info on what raises these skills? What I mean - some are a given - carry heavy load and build strenght - but what about the other skills? How do you raise intel or dex?

We have heard that Not using a skill results in decrease of that skill But we have no list of what or how to Raise them. (At least that I have found).

jumpshot
02-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Adding points to the right base stats is going to be very important to be the best crafter in your chosen profession.



Oh ya? What effect do the stats have?