Recouping the angries

[Knightsodyssey]

Xsyon,

I have a suggestion. Like many i look forward to this weekend after a long week of work to sit down, relax, open a cold beer and work some skills. Due to the frequent client crashes, time warps, and what not many in my tribe are outright angry and ready to quit. I'd know you'd save me as a customer if you gave me some kind of recoup for the loss of enjoyment of game that i paid for.

I have a example;
Give us a skill up in one chosen trade skill with all recipes. (besides the secrete recipes of course)


Allow us to sell items from our bases asap. (seems pretty common sense here) since there is no currency let players be imagionative. Like i can put a full suite of grass plate armor up and request 100 mortor, nails, or fish)

I would also request we stop changing some of the simple things that currently work (like changing the craft requirements for mortor) and focus on just adding content. If its not bugged or broken put it on the back burner.

Like i'm sure we would all like to see war dec's unleashed. I would like the ability to squish one of my nieghbors, or get my ass kicked trying. I'm a little confused as to this game having a naked guy with a shovel do so much damage vrs a toon with full grass plate armor however. Can we tweak that? (all that grass picked and weaved for what?) lol?

Also more of a warning about this game being not being fully developed on purchase page might save some headache. I do enjoy this game. I hope they don't nerf the risk vrs reward but build on it. For example the naked guy with a shovel risked crap. He should do crap damage and be extremely vulnerable compare to a guy with ful armor on and crafted weapons.

Please keep magic crap and non crafted stuff out of the game and make all the game weapons and armor balanced as possible to keep the crafting fun.

I would also recomend getting people's names crafted on what they make. for example "crafted by bob". Make it more personable and what not.

Increase respawn rate on tree's or give us the ability to plant them on tribal terriroty please.

Increase respawn rate of stripped scavange piles please.

Let us dye armor and baskets asap ( i can't ever remember which basket is what)

Make baskets of the same type stackable like the logs are.

architecture recipe and skill gains is redicalusly stupid hard. If you don't need to find a recipe to make the whole set or whatever just keep it simple (example, you get to make a teepee at skill 25)

Adding your level up points should unlock basic recipes (i got shafted on that one)

Decay rate for tribes, if none touch the totem or haven't logged on for over a week/month (whatever) there totem should vanish like a fart in the wind and all items on there property be fully lootable.
That would get people exploring.

Did i mention; Allow us to sell items from our bases asap. (seems pretty common sense here) since there is no currency let players be imagionative. Like i can put a full suite of grass plate armor up and request 100 mortor, nails, or fish)

I'm sure all the people that covet the fabrics section at walmart love the 4000 types of cloth and cloth scraps. But keeping it as simple as the grass would work for me. Cloth is cloth, scraps is scraps. Same with bones, i don't care if its racoon bones or bear bones, a bone is a bone. Probably help with server memory and crashing.

Rares for decor to add to your tribal base from scavanging or loot would be a good idea. (make sure to make them RARE).

My two cents. Hope it is worth more than the cash i have scavanged.


Thanks
KO

[Malivius]

I honestly don't think much less than a working game with at least the systems that were in-game in beta turned on is going to fix the game for most people. It's not going to change their minds to give more free time for a game that they aren't interested in playing at all.

That said, I understand the team is working like mad to fix the issues...it's just unfortunate that it feels like one tiny step forward, then a huge crashing stumble backwards...

[mmogaddict]

I honestly think Jordi should rethink the sub situation, and if he does need to get the subs going, perhalps reduce it while Prelude is running, to something like $5/ month.

$15 / month for a game that is a glorified alpha is pushing things. We are customers not investors. If he wants to treat us as investors I'd like some shares please.

[Knightsodyssey]

That said, I understand the team is working like mad to fix the issues...it's just unfortunate that it feels like one tiny step forward, then a huge crashing stumble backwards...

To get a buyer base to stay they have to be competitive. Lowering the price would assist in competitiveness. Customer service and value (read revised post) would aslo help keep client base. I know i'd stay if they can make all those changes i posted in less than a month or two. But i have to wait 6 months for half of it and/or they make it weak by making safe area's, or making it more like other mmopg's . They need to stay different and player driven. I think they have some great concepts going just need extreme haste in kicking it into gear. Otherwise why would i not just quit and come back in a year when its finished?

KO

[JCatano]

Did i mention; Allow us to sell items from our bases asap. (seems pretty common sense here) since there is no currency let players be imagionative. Like i can put a full suite of grass plate armor up and request 100 mortor, nails, or fish)

You can do that by selling items through quests.

[Africanus]

Also more of a warning about this game being not being fully developed on purchase page

Amen to that!
Would of been handy 6 months ago knowing just how "Pre-Beta" this lemon was at the time of purchase, rather than relying on the glossy "happy world" images on the home page.

Xsyon half a year ago......2/10
Xsyon today.........3/10

Another MMO bites the dust. Seems to be the norm these days.

.....and yes, I will close the door on my way out!

[Aethaeryn]

You can do that by selling items through quests.

Yeah I was going to say. . this can already be done. There is just no way for anyone to know where to go to get what they need. People will have to be social. . talk in local. I trade a lot with a few people around me. We all know what each other produce etc.

[Armand]

I sincerely hope they don't have the gall to charge us 15$/month for the game as it is now.

[Knightsodyssey]

Yeah I was going to say. . this can already be done. There is just no way for anyone to know where to go to get what they need. People will have to be social. . talk in local. I trade a lot with a few people around me. We all know what each other produce etc.

Its broke. You can't trade baskets, pouches, and needs some kind of signal to tell if it has a quest available other than someone running to totum. I love the concept. Hate the execution.

[d3m0nd0]

Lets make the game a World of Warcraft Clone. The World needs more of those.

[NexAnima]

Xsyon,

I have a suggestion. Like many i look forward to this weekend after a long week of work to sit down, relax, open a cold beer and work some skills. Due to the frequent client crashes, time warps, and what not many in my tribe are outright angry and ready to quit. I'd know you'd save me as a customer if you gave me some kind of recoup for the loss of enjoyment of game that i paid for.

Welcome to the start of every MMO, feel free to quit for a while till the server is more stable.
I have a example;
Give us a skill up in one chosen trade skill with all recipes. (besides the secrete recipes of course)

Hmm...something for nothing...Um no...


Allow us to sell items from our bases asap. (seems pretty common sense here) since there is no currency let players be imagionative. Like i can put a full suite of grass plate armor up and request 100 mortor, nails, or fish)

Try using your totem...

I would also request we stop changing some of the simple things that currently work (like changing the craft requirements for mortor) and focus on just adding content. If its not bugged or broken put it on the back burner.

Some change is better then no change...

Like i'm sure we would all like to see war dec's unleashed. I would like the ability to squish one of my nieghbors, or get my ass kicked trying. I'm a little confused as to this game having a naked guy with a shovel do so much damage vrs a toon with full grass plate armor however. Can we tweak that? (all that grass picked and weaved for what?) lol?

How about they work on revamping combat as a whole before wasting time tweaking things that will change anyways...

Also more of a warning about this game being not being fully developed on purchase page might save some headache. I do enjoy this game. I hope they don't nerf the risk vrs reward but build on it. For example the naked guy with a shovel risked crap. He should do crap damage and be extremely vulnerable compare to a guy with ful armor on and crafted weapons.

People should really take responsibility for purchases they make...1 hour on the forums could tell you everything you want to know. Wait...you mean AXE hair gel won't get me laid!! But the commercial and label says it does..

Please keep magic crap and non crafted stuff out of the game and make all the game weapons and armor balanced as possible to keep the crafting fun.

Magic will come in the future

I would also recomend getting people's names crafted on what they make. for example "crafted by bob". Make it more personable and what not.

Already set to be in, tooltips are off ATM

Increase respawn rate on tree's or give us the ability to plant them on tribal terriroty please.

They are working on it

Increase respawn rate of stripped scavange piles please.

More like no respawns on junk

Let us dye armor and baskets asap ( i can't ever remember which basket is what)

future content, along with labels

Make baskets of the same type stackable like the logs are.

how would you open the bottom one?

architecture recipe and skill gains is redicalusly stupid hard. If you don't need to find a recipe to make the whole set or whatever just keep it simple (example, you get to make a teepee at skill 25)

Architecture is not that hard, I gain every 5-7 corner posts, at 50 I already have all the recipes, it only took 2 days of screwing around.

Adding your level up points should unlock basic recipes (i got shafted on that one)

No, those points are a bonus, you didn't earn any new recipes...

Decay rate for tribes, if none touch the totem or haven't logged on for over a week/month (whatever) there totem should vanish like a fart in the wind and all items on there property be fully lootable.
That would get people exploring.

Or just make them vanish once every one cancels their account.

Did i mention; Allow us to sell items from our bases asap. (seems pretty common sense here) since there is no currency let players be imagionative. Like i can put a full suite of grass plate armor up and request 100 mortor, nails, or fish)

Yes you did...

I'm sure all the people that covet the fabrics section at walmart love the 4000 types of cloth and cloth scraps. But keeping it as simple as the grass would work for me. Cloth is cloth, scraps is scraps. Same with bones, i don't care if its racoon bones or bear bones, a bone is a bone. Probably help with server memory and crashing.

Lets sacrifice variety because its soooo complex...

Rares for decor to add to your tribal base from scavanging or loot would be a good idea. (make sure to make them RARE).

I would rather rare recipes to craft decos...

My two cents. Hope it is worth more than the cash i have scavanged.

No, it wasn't seems like you just want the game in your image, screw everyone else...


Thanks
KO

Didn't you know? Making multiple of the same threads in different boards makes your opinion even more valid. I disagree with 99% of what OP wants.

[Rudder]

I just want the tree's near my tribe to regrow OR We suddenly find acorns and seeds

[Kinslayer]

I agree the sub fees are excessive for this game. Even the annual or bi-annual subs dont offer much discount either. Bi-annual for Xsyon is $77.94 (12.99/mth), I recently subbed to Rift for 6mths and it cost me $59.94 (9.99/mth). Which game do you think is worth more money honestly? Even though they are two completely different games, there has got to be some sort of standard when working out what a game is worth each month. Not only have we not been offered founder prices for subs, bulk buying time is simply not worth it, and all the prices offered are just far too expensive for what this game offers. I dont think enough can be done in 1 more month to make it worth $14.99/mth. $5/mth is realistic, $9.99/mth at a real stretch, but at $9.99/mth you should offer bulk time at a severely discounted rate that would see it down as low as $5.99/mth.

[Escargot]

Decay rate for tribes, if none touch the totem or haven't logged on for over a week/month (whatever) there totem should vanish like a fart in the wind and all items on there property be fully lootable.
That would get people exploring.



Alot of folks are waiting to see if the feature set ever gets more fleshed out, and are currently doing other things.

But I can guarantee, if the above happens, even that prospect of getting people back will also "vanish like a fart in the wind".

[Dweetybyrd]

Alot of folks are waiting to see if the feature set ever gets more fleshed out, and are currently doing other things.

But I can guarantee, if the above happens, even that prospect of getting people back will also "vanish like a fart in the wind".
Spot on assessment dude. that would be the final straw for many.

it wont happen, that would just be dumb.

[VeryWiiTee]

Didn't you know? Making multiple of the same threads in different boards makes your opinion even more valid. I disagree with 99% of what OP wants.


Spot on mate!

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I agree the sub fees are excessive for this game. Even the annual or bi-annual subs dont offer much discount either. Bi-annual for Xsyon is $77.94 (12.99/mth), I recently subbed to Rift for 6mths and it cost me $59.94 (9.99/mth). Which game do you think is worth more money honestly? Even though they are two completely different games, there has got to be some sort of standard when working out what a game is worth each month. Not only have we not been offered founder prices for subs, bulk buying time is simply not worth it, and all the prices offered are just far too expensive for what this game offers. I dont think enough can be done in 1 more month to make it worth $14.99/mth. $5/mth is realistic, $9.99/mth at a real stretch, but at $9.99/mth you should offer bulk time at a severely discounted rate that would see it down as low as $5.99/mth.

Then why are you moaning? Leave Xsyon and don't come back or whatever famous "LEAVE!" movie quote you want to use..
It's not that hard. You haven't even paid for the game.. Well you have.. Mere 10$ the rest is pre-paid time.. Get a life.. Honestly.

[Sirius]

You haven't even paid for the game.. Well you have.. Mere 10$ the rest is pre-paid time.. Get a life.. Honestly.

Anyone who can post here has paid at least $40 for the game. You may find this information helpful as you attempt to develop a sensible point of view.

[Kinslayer]

Spot on mate!

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Then why are you moaning? Leave Xsyon and don't come back or whatever famous "LEAVE!" movie quote you want to use..
It's not that hard. You haven't even paid for the game.. Well you have.. Mere 10$ the rest is pre-paid time.. Get a life.. Honestly.What in that quote you posted of me detailing the excessive price of subs, leads you to feel the need to attack me and tell me to get a life? What makes you feel the need to tell me to leave? Where in that post did I say that I wanted to leave? Perhaps intelligence isnt your strong suit.

[mgilbrtsn]

I honestly think Jordi should rethink the sub situation, and if he does need to get the subs going, perhalps reduce it while Prelude is running, to something like $5/ month.

$15 / month for a game that is a glorified alpha is pushing things. We are customers not investors. If he wants to treat us as investors I'd like some shares please.

A reasonable suggestion +1