Leaving Xyson

[PeonSanders911]

I'm quitting Xyson.....I had such high hopes for the game, and might come back if it gets better, and more people are playing...but for now, im outta here.

I wish the game all the success it deserves, but i cant pay to play it the way it is.....

Good luck everyone....

[NorCalGooey]

Take care, and keep an eye on it :)

[SnowMiser]

Yep, we all quit today. The game itself was not bad, but I think they released it to early. Paying to play now seems a waste of money, espically with the limited player base. The reason I'm leaving ( most of us) is the pay to play. I feel the game is not ready to be charged for.

Have fun everyone. We might see you later, or in the next PvP game ( which we all hoped would be this one, but it's not looking that way)

[NorCalGooey]

How many were active in Hooligans before today?

[MrDDT]

I agree with the quitting is likely a good idea for most players, but why right before the huge patch? That will likely fix a lot of problems most people are having?

[China]

I agree with the quitting is likely a good idea for most players, but why right before the huge patch? That will likely fix a lot of problems most people are having?

Possibly attention?

I hate "I'm leaving" forum messages.

I want to say in return...."so go already, just don't expect us to care".

[MrDDT]

I sorta agree, but really he is saying "We are leaving and might be back" which means really.
"We are letting you know we are not happy with the state of the game, and hope you fix it" maybe not in such nice terms =P

[Book]

I thought it was to let people know they'll be removing their totem in case someone had an eye on that real estate?

[NorCalGooey]

Really? I think most keep their totems :)

[Aiden]

Really? I think most keep their totems :)

I can confirm this for a fact...unless the tribe chooses to disband and drop totem, it will stay there forever. I know for fact that that's the case...even if they get a refund...(have a buddy who's totem is still standing...AFTER he left and requested and got a refund...lol)

[eric]

I can confirm this for a fact...unless the tribe chooses to disband and drop totem, it will stay there forever. I know for fact that that's the case...even if they get a refund...(have a buddy who's totem is still standing...AFTER he left and requested and got a refund...lol)

Luckily the world is large enough to settle around these 'monuments of past civilizations' :).

[Saorlan]

I'm quitting Xyson.....I had such high hopes for the game, and might come back if it gets better, and more people are playing...but for now, im outta here.

I wish the game all the success it deserves, but i cant pay to play it the way it is.....

Good luck everyone....

Why do people feel the need to tell everyone they are no longer playing a game. No one knew you and no one cares.

[NorCalGooey]

Someone ban this guy. Stop stinking up the forums. No one knows YOU and no one cares about YOU. But people most CERTAINLY care why people leave Xsyon. The more and more the devs see THE SAME REASON for leaving, the quicker they will fix this game.

Hell, even you care! You've opened multiple threads about it recently. Stop opening them if you don't care. The irony is truly remarkable.

It would have been nice if he said why he left not just that he did leave.

[PrinceReaper]

I played like a couple of days in open beta, and never played it again and now I lost all my 2 months time, which I never played once, I wish the devs, would give me my 2 months time free time i payed for, since they told me to leave and come back in six months, until they work on the pvp.

they must be deranged if they think i be subbing....for this lol game after being misled by their feature page, their feature page does not represent the game, so I feel scammed and betrayed by them, since I bought the game in mind of building up a civ with people and fighting for resources and land, but what I found was a game controlled by artificial mechanics that doesn't allow to have any freedom.

[Whorlok]

German Multigamingclan "A BETTER TOMORROW" is activ!..THE FUTURE IS WITH XSYON!
INFO: www.better-tomorrow.de

[Saorlan]

You've opened multiple threads about it recently. Stop opening them if you don't care. The irony is truly remarkable.

Mr Gooey please keep personal attacks to PMs please, you are lowering the tone of the forums with that kind of post.

However since you have brought it up in a public place : please explain any post I have recently made about caring why people leave. Er you can't. Ok end of that then.

Anyway like I said. If you people are leaving the game then fine - we do not need to know this, the world does not revolve around you believe it or not.

[NorCalGooey]

Hhahahahaha. Troll. 1) Personal attacks? Nowhere to be found in this thread. 2) make stuff up? no where to be found either. what are you talking about?

I said stop OPENING these threads. You don't have to read them if YOU don't care. But other people do care WHY people are leaving. You opening these threads shows you care about the thread or bashing someone inside...and that's it.

What is even weirder is how you go into other threads acting all nice, not starting shit for no reason.

[MrDDT]

Anyway like I said. If you people are leaving the game then fine - we do not need to know this, the world does not revolve around you believe it or not.

I dont see how people leaving the game is fine when its the type of people the game is meant for.
Heck Saorlan you dont even play.

[Saorlan]

Mr Gooney please respond via PM in future you seem to be on some kind of crusade of some deluded sort.

I don't think I am only one finding these "I am leaving" teenage tantrum posts tiresome and unnecessary. The devs are well aware of the failings of the game and are doing there best to add all the stuff they originally wanted.

Thanks.

[unclean666]

Why would you all come on here right before a huge update that fixes a lot of what people have been complaining about to say you quit? Thats just not making.Now if it was a week after the update and you wasent happy that would make sense.

Really dumb or hidden agenda.

[MrDDT]

I find this thread anything but tiresome and unnecessary. Again its about expressing oneself and Im sad to see them go. They were a group of players I was expecting to be in the game, and was looking forward to playing a game with them in it. They are a good adversary in which I think would have made the game more fun for many tribes and people.

I find posts like you make, with personal attacks and drama to be unnecessary, and really does nothing to help the game nor peoples state of mind.


Why would you all come on here right before a huge update that fixes a lot of what people have been complaining about to say you quit? Thats just not making.Now if it was a week after the update and you wasent happy that would make sense.

Really dumb or hidden agenda.

That's what I was thinking. Very odd.

[NorCalGooey]

Mr Gooney please respond via PM in future you seem to be on some kind of crusade of some deluded sort.

I don't think I am only one finding these "I am leaving" teenage tantrum posts tiresome and unnecessary. The devs are well aware of the failings of the game and are doing there best to add all the stuff they originally wanted.

Thanks.

Exactly, Saorlan. That's why I think you are delusional. You seem to think I'm on a crusade against you? You don't seem to understand who came in attacking someone else. You need to stay away from shit like that and this won't happen. Stay on topic and don't come into a thread and start making personal attacks.

To Unclean and DDT. One patch alone won't fix everything. We will still be having plenty of discussion about working economy, adding value to items, etc...after this patch.

With that said, people shouldn't be leaving a couple days before. Play the new patch for a few days them make a decision.

[robofriven]

Anyone else think that all of these "I'm leaving and this is why" threads are the online equivalent of "I'm taking my ball and going home"? They sure seem to be to me. If you don't like the game, then don't play and I sincerely hope you find a game you like elsewhere. If you have something constructive to say then say it. Don't say "I'm not going to play unless you do X." The people making the game are doing their best to fix everything... in fact all the reasons people are leaving have been on their "to fix" list since before you left!

If you want to see a decent game completely ruined by listening to too many "I'm leaving unless" statements then look at WoW. Everyone complained about having to work for things so much that they've made the game the equivelent of logging in and winning immediately. Hell I think they give you a mount at character creation now and if you sneeze they give you epic gear.

[MrDDT]

Anyone else think that all of these "I'm leaving and this is why" threads are the online equivalent of "I'm taking my ball and going home"? They sure seem to be to me. If you don't like the game, then don't play and I sincerely hope you find a game you like elsewhere. If you have something constructive to say then say it. Don't say "I'm not going to play unless you do X." The people making the game are doing their best to fix everything... in fact all the reasons people are leaving have been on their "to fix" list since before you left!

If you want to see a decent game completely ruined by listening to too many "I'm leaving unless" statements then look at WoW. Everyone complained about having to work for things so much that they've made the game the equivelent of logging in and winning immediately. Hell I think they give you a mount at character creation now and if you sneeze they give you epic gear.


Im an owner of a company, and feedback like this is a lot of times needed. Many times I dont know what is going on. Why someone didnt keep with a program or not, if they were to just stop. Feedback is a good thing even if its negative, as long as its truthful and not made up stuff.

I dont think they are saying "Im leaving unless" I think its more "Later, the game isnt coming out like we thought, here is why" and not "I quitting unless xyz is put into place" even if it were, its still good feedback if 90% of your target base is saying it.

I think you made a bad point about "all the things they want fixed have been on the "to fix" list since before you left" because, thats their point. Its been on the list for over a year now and still no progress nor reports on it.

[Book]

Anyone else think that all of these "I'm leaving and this is why" threads are the online equivalent of "I'm taking my ball and going home"?

Now that was funny ;)

So the feedback was:
1) Not enough people playing.
2) Don't want to pay to play... yet.

Free to play might bring in more people, but maybe not, and not financially feasible.

More people online will likely be a function of further development to a point the devs find it reasonable to advertise. All of which takes money, hence pay to play.

Feedback gotten I'd assume. Onwards.

[Aethaeryn]

Nah lots of people put a lot of time and passion into these types of games. they are not just easy to walk away from. Almost anytime you cancel a service you are asked why you are leaving. Companies typically (and should) want this feedback. Sure they can see the sub numbers but having people say why they are leaving is helpful - also cathartic. It is not a 'taking my ball and going home' thread in my opinion.

And I agree. . taking the time to post how a thread is useless is just as useless as the thread itself.. . just stop bumping it :)

[robofriven]

Im an owner of a company, and feedback like this is a lot of times needed. Many times I dont know what is going on. Why someone didnt keep with a program or not, if they were to just stop. Feedback is a good thing even if its negative, as long as its truthful and not made up stuff.

I dont think they are saying "Im leaving unless" I think its more "Later, the game isnt coming out like we thought, here is why" and not "I quitting unless xyz is put into place" even if it were, its still good feedback if 90% of your target base is saying it.

I think you made a bad point about "all the things they want fixed have been on the "to fix" list since before you left" because, thats their point. Its been on the list for over a year now and still no progress nor reports on it.

Feedback is a good thing, but how many times do you need to hear people say "I'm leaving because combat sucks and there's sync issues"? They knew it was a problem and have said that the current combat was more of a place holder then anything else. Not only that, but these people, if paying attention would know that there is going to be a big patch that's supposed to fix the things they hate.

As far as my "bad point" I disagree. There has been a lot of updates on the combat issue, not to mention I hear it's been running on the test server (every time I look the server's down) and they say it's almost done. Yes it has taken them a long time to get to it, but getting the game in working order was a lot more important then combat to them (and me). Afterall, what's the point in an awesome combat system if you have 1 minute lag spikes between the cool hits you're making?

I'm all for feedback and helping the devs understand what needs to be done, (and there's 2 whole sections of the forum for just that) I'm just saying that the endless stream of "I'm leaving because of X" posts sounds a lot more like "I'm taking my ball and going home" rather then a constructive argument about game improvements.

[MrDDT]

Feedback is a good thing, but how many times do you need to hear people say "I'm leaving because combat sucks and there's sync issues"? They knew it was a problem and have said that the current combat was more of a place holder then anything else. Not only that, but these people, if paying attention would know that there is going to be a big patch that's supposed to fix the things they hate.

As far as my "bad point" I disagree. There has been a lot of updates on the combat issue, not to mention I hear it's been running on the test server (every time I look the server's down) and they say it's almost done. Yes it has taken them a long time to get to it, but getting the game in working order was a lot more important then combat to them (and me). Afterall, what's the point in an awesome combat system if you have 1 minute lag spikes between the cool hits you're making?

I'm all for feedback and helping the devs understand what needs to be done, (and there's 2 whole sections of the forum for just that) I'm just saying that the endless stream of "I'm leaving because of X" posts sounds a lot more like "I'm taking my ball and going home" rather then a constructive argument about game improvements.


Well lets see. Lets just say 5000 people bought the game.
4500 left or canceled.

If only 1 persons posts "Im leaving because the game sucks and no combat". Devs might go. Ok thats a fluke.
If 1000 people post "Im leaving because the game sucks and no combat". Its going to be more noticed.

So how many times do you need to hear it? Every time it applies would be best, yet I doubt every player that leaves will give the forum feedback to let them know why.

I dont understand your point. If most people are upset with combat, and thats the problem then it should be fixed first before 1min lag spikes (every how often?). I understand what you are saying, but in my opinion, Ive not seen these "1 min lag spikes" and I believe you might just be making them up to prove your point, which doesnt prove it at all. Because if there were 1min lag spikes, people would be using that as the reason they are leaving and not lack of combat.

You can think thats how people are saying it, but doesnt change the fact thats not how they are saying it. They are saying why and letting people and the devs know why. Im sure there are some posts saying "If you dont change it we will quit." But Ive not seen much of that.
Ive seen more of "Ok Ive had enough, and leaving until its fixed" Which is totally understandable.

Anyways debating the point of someones feedback post is more pointless than the post itself, and sounds more like you are trying to flame the players instead of understanding they are upset and leaving due to the lack of a well made game.

[NorCalGooey]

Feedback is a good thing, but how many times do you need to hear people say "I'm leaving because combat sucks and there's sync issues"? They knew it was a problem and have said that the current combat was more of a place holder then anything else. Not only that, but these people, if paying attention would know that there is going to be a big patch that's supposed to fix the things they hate.

As far as my "bad point" I disagree. There has been a lot of updates on the combat issue, not to mention I hear it's been running on the test server (every time I look the server's down) and they say it's almost done. Yes it has taken them a long time to get to it, but getting the game in working order was a lot more important then combat to them (and me). Afterall, what's the point in an awesome combat system if you have 1 minute lag spikes between the cool hits you're making?

I'm all for feedback and helping the devs understand what needs to be done, (and there's 2 whole sections of the forum for just that) I'm just saying that the endless stream of "I'm leaving because of X" posts sounds a lot more like "I'm taking my ball and going home" rather then a constructive argument about game improvements.

Most of the quitting posts are a lot more meaningful than that. This one wasn't helpful because they didn't say why they were leaving.

[robofriven]

Well lets see. Lets just say 5000 people bought the game.
4500 left or canceled.

If only 1 persons posts "Im leaving because the game sucks and no combat". Devs might go. Ok thats a fluke.
If 1000 people post "Im leaving because the game sucks and no combat". Its going to be more noticed.

So how many times do you need to hear it? Every time it applies would be best, yet I doubt every player that leaves will give the forum feedback to let them know why.

I dont understand your point. If most people are upset with combat, and thats the problem then it should be fixed first before 1min lag spikes (every how often?). I understand what you are saying, but in my opinion, Ive not seen these "1 min lag spikes" and I believe you might just be making them up to prove your point, which doesnt prove it at all. Because if there were 1min lag spikes, people would be using that as the reason they are leaving and not lack of combat.

You can think thats how people are saying it, but doesnt change the fact thats not how they are saying it. They are saying why and letting people and the devs know why. Im sure there are some posts saying "If you dont change it we will quit." But Ive not seen much of that.
Ive seen more of "Ok Ive had enough, and leaving until its fixed" Which is totally understandable.

Anyways debating the point of someones feedback post is more pointless than the post itself, and sounds more like you are trying to flame the players instead of understanding they are upset and leaving due to the lack of a well made game.

To clarify I was talking about the atrocious lag that was happening around launch time in response to your comment about people complaining about combat for a year. I truly feel like they handled the combat issue as soon as they possibly could in any kind of meaningful manner given their manpower available.

I wasn't flaming. I admit I was tempted to flame it for a minute, (the thought "good riddance" certainly appeared in my thoughts more then once) but decided to make more of a cogent point and express what I felt was happening. I disagree with you on some points, but that happens. At the very least I still think there's far too many new threads made about leaving, but I tend not to read most of them as they more often then not just tend to be kicking a dead horse or complaining about something that, in the devs words, the game was never supposed to be. (I know the phrase "the next great pvp game" came up somewhere)

As far as useless, well that's a matter of opinion. I tend to enjoy debating (intelligently) the merits behind people's actions, and this is the internet, whose soul purpose I feel is wasting time that could be better spent in the real world. :)

[VeryWiiTee]

The reason why it is tiresome to see the thread popping up on the forum is the fact that you can send an email to them in which you complain and tell them the reason.
Instead these players comments on a public forum why they think a game is bad, a product is bad, it is just such a reminder of getting 15 minutes of worthless fame..

Would you want 1000 people spamming your supposed company's forum with YOU SUCK or would you rather want an email stating it. I'd prefer the latter. Any company probably would..

[MrDDT]

The reason why it is tiresome to see the thread popping up on the forum is the fact that you can send an email to them in which you complain and tell them the reason.
Instead these players comments on a public forum why they think a game is bad, a product is bad, it is just such a reminder of getting 15 minutes of worthless fame..

Would you want 1000 people spamming your supposed company's forum with YOU SUCK or would you rather want an email stating it. I'd prefer the latter. Any company probably would..


I would guess, I wouldnt want them saying "You suck" at all. I would rather see something like "I dont like the game because of ZYX, and I hope its fixed because its a major issue. At this time I will be canceling my account, but I will be back if things are working better, good luck"

Which is pretty much what the OP said.

[VeryWiiTee]

It is? My understanding of it is: "This sucks, maybe we will come back when it isn't such a fail.."
- That's my attitude to the forum posts about a game.

Again, the email is still to be favored, no? It is even a lot more simple to submit than a forum post.

[Liquidblade]

You quit, right before this patch? oh well.... but one thing I will have to say is that if you do return at a later date, you will have missed many things, working on your structures mostly. I stick around building, building, building oh and gathering resources, if any of you have seen our resources, you will know what I mean, and now Im glad that we gathered all of that after they dispersed it through Tahoe, just a thought!