We all need PATIENCE!

[Mactavendish]

Remember when you first read about this game?

Remember when it said this was going to be the Prelude time, where things would change according to feedback from players and what could be done with the technology?

Remember where they said that nothing is in it's final state, and that as the game developed we would be a big part of what the game finally was?

Remember any of that???

If not that's partly the problem. Expectations are out of whack.

What we need is the patience to wait.

Wait till the very small team at NG is able to finish the work they are doing.
Wait till the recipe tweaks can be done... ( done right )
Wait till the loot tables are put where they need to be.
Wait till the game is in a state where lots of folks will be entertained better.

We have all developed an inflated sense of entitlement. NOBODY made any player here buy this game. It was a choice made by US. So if there is anyone to be upset with if we don't like something here... it is US. Yes, ME included.

And I know a few will retort, "It's on the feature page!! They lied to us!!!"

No they didn't ... not they didn't. NO, they didn't.

These were not promises, just features they were shooting for.

So let us ALL take a deep breath, remember it's a game and have fun with what you CAN do and have patience to wait for the cool things you will be able to do next.

[Mactavendish]

what is really curious to me is that if you are so disgusted by all this .. why do you even post here or read these forums...

[Dubanka]

lol.

We have all developed an inflated sense of entitlement.

purchasing a product, and expecting that product to be as advertised, is not fit the definition of entitlement.

if this was a free beta/alpha test phase where players were in a f2p envirornment and were demanding that this or that pet feauture be implimented NOW...that would be an inflated sense of entitlement. It is not an inflated sense of entitlement to demand you get the product and services you paid for/that were advertised.

[NorCalGooey]

Mactavendish, read this post and get back to me. How close is this to the game you're currently playing? Notice his summary is prefaced by "IN THE PRELUDE." Many people bought this game to pvp and, yah, it didn't deliver, at all.

http://www.xsyon.com/forum/showthread.php/32-Conflict-Death-Consequences-and-Decisions

The saddest thing of all is that Xsyon devs don't realize this. They don't realize who bought all the accounts that is currently funding their development.

The problem is either A) Xsyon devs will destroy the game because they don't want PvP or B) they simply CANNOT add in PvP at this stage in the game because of so many other unfinished tasks.




1) Put everything on hold
2) Get PvP warfare working,
3) Population increases by 10000%
4) Profit


Concept and systems design for a sandbox game is the easiest thing in the world. I'm not saying coding or programming is easy. I'm just saying they have absolutely zero idea what the player wants first.


Let's just cut PvP out of the picture for one moment. WoW, a game with zero real PvP, is massively successful yes because of its popularity of course, but it BECAME successful because the PvE was EVERYWHERE.

This game is a crafting/building sim, with PvE equivalent in difficulty to killing a critter in WoW and maybe once every 5-15 minutes you will find a mob. It's better since the patch, that's for sure.




But you see what I mean? How can they properly have PvP when mobs can't even walk over granite (they can now?).

Coding sieges and adding expansion zones is easier than AI adjustments. Why not do that first? It's actually extremely easy. No we don't even need animations...althought a rock flying through the air is essentially a built into the engine animation.... (space bar = fire projectile with variables such as gravity attached to it? ring a bell? it's so simple) you would just have to setup something like catapults and ladders and there you are done.



Here is absolute proof. Every tribe advertises there war position typically first and foremost. Good, neutral, evil.



"We kill all who stand in evils way" Templars
"We kill all who stand in goods way" DHOV
"We will bring war to those who invade our zone and also help in major causes"

Poll to Hopi Tribe before they quit about Hopi members partaking in warfare. 75% of HOPI, yes HOPI, said they wanted warfare and would partake.

All tribes were advertising for warfare. There is no tribe that just says and if you do find one, they are less than 10% of all players.

"We love to craft and build. No PvP here.

90+% want PvP and that's just a fact.

IT'S NOT XSYON DEPENDENT, this is SANDBOX MMO dependent.

Why????? Because this isn't a linear game....all successful sandbox games (ones that didn't close up shop) #1 content is the PvP....every, single, one.



I'm not being arrogant, I was certainly in the top 5 for /played since launch. I know this game like the back of my fucking hand. PvPing with DDT was more exhilarating than anything I have ever crafted or built (even though I hate DDT and our city is the largest and most complete). Hell, at launch, 10v10 with Society of the Anvil was THE MOST FUN TO DATE, even though it was the old combat system and 1000 ping.

I have built more than any one other person I can guarantee it... and the most fun wasn't building the city, it was the PvP. The terraforming, city building, crafting, resources gathering, it all was a means to the fun, PvP. Also, in itself design and construction CAN be fun. Also, it is there for variety. No one likes to PvP 24/7... but I can guarantee that the MAJORITY of sand box gamers spend more time PvPing than PvEing or crafting/building.



Please DO NOT point toward the polls, they are so skewed it's honestly pathetic. People don't hate PvP, they hate being griefed. It's easy to setup a pre-siege system, giving them full warning. You know what else a pre-siege system will do? Give the player a chance to get his most valuable items to safety before the siege is allowed to commence. That's care bear enough IMO, as that is no where near realistic unless a scout was to inform you of an army headed your way. But having time to pack up and move....that is completely carebear enough.



Final thing to Jordi and devs I really, really hope they don't mess up. Expansion totems.

Expansion totem system WILL NOT WORK without zone separation between safe zone and expansion with trade routes in between. These trade routes are the ONLY way to get carts of goods from expansion land to safe land (i personally think carts should be able to travel on only roads everywhere in the game not just exp. land to safe land. however, you would need to add bridges to every road a river runs through to make this work).

Seriously, 2 zones sounds pretty good. 2000meters walk on a main road to give your items ultimate protection (and that's if you are on the edge of the mist, could be more than 2k).

If you allow expansion totems to be placed anywhere within that, near the safe zones, then you just defeated the purpose all together. No, far away isn't 500 meters. It's much more.


ALSO, it will ONLY work if you set it up like the EVE system. A circle of expansion lands, ALL OPENED UP AT THE SAME TIME, with 2000meters of no totem land in between (perhaps strong mobs in this area though)

(isn't this the most obvious developer decision in history of decisions? obviously you don't open up expansion lands section at a time...honestly...just brainstorm the massive problems with that just one more time...because I heard you were thinking of doing it...it will kill ANY chance of population revival if you release a portion of the expansion totem lands at once).

What you could (and should) do is open up a thinner amount of land in a complete circle aroudn the map. Maybe add 20% to the map radius all around. Do not receed the land 10 zones deep East or West past the current mist...whoever settles that far away will never get to interact with the rest of the world. It needs to be a gradual expansion, but completely equal in radius on all sides of the map.


Seriously though, if you open up expansion lands to a corner of the world and not another corner...what do you think is going to happen? People who don't live in that corner are going to be absolutely pissed and likely quit, since you just effectively ruined the start of warfare by only allowing convenient access to expansion land if you were lucky enough to just so happen to place your totem in that area of the world.


Sitting here typing this, this is sad. I shouldn't have to be. This is such basic stuff for a sandbox game. I understand that it is completely unpolished and mostly unfinished....HOWEVER, you guys made the poor decision of releasing the game early. I hope it wasn't for the cash because that shows how desperate a state this game is in.

But, if you are going to release the game this unfinished, at least give people some conflict. I would enjoy terraforming and building a lot more on expansion lands. I would make the city much more strategically defensive and that part would be fun too. Because I know it would be something we have to protect. The thrill of losing the land is half the fun. And since we would KNOW going into expansion lands that anything we place here or build here can be stolen, we wouldn't have any reason to complain when someone steals 1000 hours of terraforming work.

Why? Because you shouldn't have done so much work on an expansion land if you weren't confident you could defend it. The carebears would stick to building on safe land since most only seem to care about the looks of the city and wouldn't want anyone to steal what they have designed/built (completely understandable if you put in that much time to it).

But the awareness of risk of building on expansion land and also the option to build worry free in safe totem area leaves NO EXCUSES. Seriously, none. You can't QQ about losing all your work in your expansion zone when you knew perfectly well there would be a legitimate chance that work into the expansion zone was all for nothing.



Huge ramble, I hope someone reads it and doesn't mess up the last chance this game has, expansion, warfare and conquest. Good luck, even though you don't need it. You just need conflict.

[China]

Wall of text :)


PS ......I understood what prelude meant, and don't understand why you or others didn't.

PSS....I'm enjoying prelude....I win - you fail : )

[hoolash]

EVE had expansions added in over time. They did not develop to their current state all at once. As the game developed, they continued to add in new space. The advantage they have, is they can put gates up, so you can cross any section of space. There is no land to tie in as it is all moving in an undefined blackness. However, I do like your idea of adding a 20% radius all the way around. They could add in one zone at a time and continue to square it as the land expands. The issue at this time, I do not see a need for expansion lands. Tribes haven't even filled the land that is available and, from what I've seen, the population drop has caused lands to be filled that should not be. ie totem decay... The safe lands is a good idea but not great, and this is coming from a carebear. I suck at PvP, always have and probably always will. However, I hate to play in a building sim where there is no risk to my business. That's why I prefer the games like EVE, DarkFall, and hopefully Xsyon. There is building/crafting with the chance that you'll get slaughtered. And the times the claws come out and the carebear wins, well, that win is even better. This game is truly missing the PvP/warfare aspect but safe lands and zone expansion is not going to fix this. Think about UO during the Fel/Tram split. This was a horrible idea and ultimately ended the rave fandom that UO had accomplished over the years. It's still running but it is nowhere near what it was when they did the split. Again, coming from a carebear.

I would also like to point out the realism in warfare. A war declaration is common practice and secret ninja attacks are rare before the declaration has been given. So, the time to move items of value to a secure location is proper. Just don't make it ridiculous.

-Aponivi

[Mactavendish]

You know, it amusing to me when people parrot what the devs say and don't even realize they did it.

( pointing strictly at norcal here )

They WILL have pvp combat, just not at this point ... yet.

They want it to provide the risk and the entertainment, but they need to finish other things first. Unless you are an accomplished programmer, and unless you have personally coded for an MMO you really don't have any idea what is "easier".

I do agree with you that pve needs to be everywhere and the simple joy of finding things in a junk pile need to be fixed so that players have a reason to keep doing it.

THUS....

The call for patience. I already know dub and ill don't understand and never will.

[unclean666]

I knew what I was getting into when I put the money down and so did a lot of others.I am happy with the game and its fun to be a part of it as it grows.

I also knew what I was getting into when I put money down for Earthrise I took a chance and wasent happy but I moved on I dont hang around there forums to bash it every chance I get.

TY

[Archangei]

Still happy about where i placed my money, im just eager to see where it ends up:)

[Dubanka]

THUS...The call for patience. I already know dub and ill don't understand and never will.

xoxo

you can add the other 95% of the players who have bought and quit xsyon since it's 'release' to my lack of understanding club.

what you don't understand here, is that you need to buy the game first, then you need to pay to play it, and then one day, ONE DAY!! its gameplaybe may resemble that which you thought you were purchasing. But then again it may not. If if it does not, yes you must still exercise more patience, for iit will still come...maybe...But only if you're patient.

I actually find this all quite amusing.

[MrDDT]

xoxo

you can add the other 95% of the players who have bought and quit xsyon since it's 'release' to my lack of understanding club.

what you don't understand here, is that you need to buy the game first, then you need to pay to play it, and then one day, ONE DAY!! its gameplaybe may resemble that which you thought you were purchasing. But then again it may not. If if it does not, yes you must still exercise more patience, for iit will still come...maybe...But only if you're patient.

I actually find this all quite amusing.

I could have sworn this game was to be released in APR of 2010. I guess over a year of waiting isnt long enough, we have to wait years for this game to be "ready" as they listed it. Haha.

[hoolash]

I could have sworn this game was to be released in APR of 2010. I guess over a year of waiting isnt long enough, we have to wait years for this game to be "ready" as they listed it. Haha.

So, stop waiting and go play another game. It's really all personal choices to be honest. And luckily for us, we're not forced to sit in a cramped house with no A/C and play this game for 12 hours a day. Cheers to you and your future search.

[Hanover]

So, stop waiting and go play another game. It's really all personal choices to be honest. And luckily for us, we're not forced to sit in a cramped house with no A/C and play this game for 12 hours a day. Cheers to you and your future search.

Says the guy who's been playing a week.:confused:

[fatboy21007]

ill u must be sick. i dont have an alt. You must be extremly bored to try to troll a dead fourm of a game u hate ^^

[Jadzia]

Says the guy who's been playing a week.:confused:

Does his registration time make it less true ? He is right, if someone doesn't want to wait go and play another game. Or get some fresh air.

[eric]

Does his registration time make it less true ? He is right, if someone doesn't want to wait go and play another game. Or get some fresh air.
Still, the amount a player has spent in the game does influence that players opinion about its progression thus far. 'Fresh' players are bound to be much more enthusiastic about the game as they experience it. More seasoned (former) players often see flaws quicker and more often.

I agree with you that the statement the 'guy who's playing a week' made is correct.

But then again, these forums are currently filled with people who either played for extended periods in beta/prelude already and most of them (you included I believe) are not as active, or at all, as you were when the game seemed to make more progress than it did in reality.
Even though some here voice their opinion in ways that sound as if they would be better off when they'd leave for good, I think the reason they keep coming back here is because they, deep down, are hopeful that Xsyon will become their game again.

The main difference between people like Illmaculate and myself is that I do not feel an urge to constantly bash the game for its flaws, I tend to just read and occasionally log in to enjoy what is there.

[MrDDT]

So, stop waiting and go play another game. It's really all personal choices to be honest. And luckily for us, we're not forced to sit in a cramped house with no A/C and play this game for 12 hours a day. Cheers to you and your future search.

Doesnt make me less upset that people like the OP are posting saying we need to just be PATIENT when I believe we have. Dont blame the players because they are upset that the game isnt working right. When people post facts about how the game isnt fun, or combat is broken, or not able to play because of major issues like disconnecting every 5 to 10mins. These people dont need to be told "Hey just have PATIENCE" when we have been waiting over a year.

Telling me to "stop waiting and go play another game" from a guy that has been here a week or 2 is really a joke. Hey person thats been here a week or 2, maybe you should play the game before telling me to stop playing it. Once you learn that Im one of the most active members of the game you will might figure out that Im not going anywhere because I believe in the game.

People like the OP are fanbois that want to tell everyone "Hey the game is doing great, Im having so much fun". Instead of pointing out issues to get fixed, and helping test the game to get it to be truely fun. Yes they dont have to help test, they can do like this 2 week old person says to do. But telling the players to "have PATIENCE" is not the answer.


Still, the amount a player has spent in the game does influence that players opinion about its progression thus far. 'Fresh' players are bound to be much more enthusiastic about the game as they experience it. More seasoned (former) players often see flaws quicker and more often.

I agree with you that the statement the 'guy who's playing a week' made is correct.

But then again, these forums are currently filled with people who either played for extended periods in beta/prelude already and most of them (you included I believe) are not as active, or at all, as you were when the game seemed to make more progress than it did in reality.
Even though some here voice their opinion in ways that sound as if they would be better off when they'd leave for good, I think the reason they keep coming back here is because they, deep down, are hopeful that Xsyon will become their game again.

The main difference between people like Illmaculate and myself is that I do not feel an urge to constantly bash the game for its flaws, I tend to just read and occasionally log in to enjoy what is there.


You agree that people should stop playing the game and play something else? Really? Instead of people like me that have like 1/2 the bug posts, and report all these to the devs? Also people like me that post ideas and also debate ideas and work them out? Just stop playing and go play another game? Or people like me that log into test when they ask to test these issues? Just forget all that and go play other games?

How many bugs have you reported? How many times have you logged into test? How many ideas have you posted? How many events have you held or been to in game?

As much as I dont like fatboy's playstyle I would say we need more players like him, more players like me, more players that are willing to put the time in and test the game, report bugs and post ideas. Less fanbois that say "Everything is great, come play Xsyon" or "If you dont like it play another game".

/rant

So again my question is how much "PATIENCE!" should I have?

[Mactavendish]

Ok fine.

I will respond you your statements and then most likely abandon these forums completely.

I have indeed suggested improvements, said what I didn't like, and have continued to pay for this game, even in it's current state because I trust they developers will eventually pull off something great. I don't care that you don't like me on some personal level. to call me a fanboi because I don't rant and rave like you do is at best misleading and at worst you just spinning other peoples words again.

You have indeed spent tons of hours here, OBSESSIVE amounts of hours and you have posted many bugs and made all kids of suggestions, ( which I see have not be listened to any better than anyone else's ). You have a huge investment... in an online game. I don't have 18 hours a day to play a game. It is NOT my life nor will I let it be.

This gives you a sense of entitlement and a feeling of importance that show every time you post. YOU personally have run off players, are just back from being banned, and yet you still feel the need to jump on the few players that still believe in the developers, or simply like the game.

I feel that you will not be happy until everyone that does not agree with you has left the game. Perhaps you feel that then YOUR ideas will finally get listened to. But I hate to reveal this secret to you, but almost ALL like you are gone. and many more like me are still in game playing.

All I am doing here is stating the facts as I see it, just like you are allowed to do.

I will check back in a month or two and see if it is worth checking out the forums or posting. But for now I leave these forums ... you have succeeded.

[MrDDT]

Im not the one telling people not to post or be upset because of not liking the game. Ive not told you to stop posting your ideas or reasons why you love the game.

I understand there are a few fanbois out there that believe the game is perfect. I also believe there are 1000s of people that have quit because the game isnt what it was said to be at release and even now. Telling us to have "PATIENCE!" is just sad. Many have been waiting, Ive had PM's telling me "Hey let me know when the game is fun so we can come back to play" or "Keep up the good fight, I dont have the time to post to keep the game on track" things like this.

I have many many friends that refuse to play due to missing features, and crashing, disconnects, lag etc. These are major issues that should have been addressed LONG ago. Telling players they dont have "PATIENCE!" is a slap in our face.

I have a sense of entitlement just as everyone does that have paid for this game. Our money was invested into the game with a list of features and a game to be working. Not a broken game with broken features or "ready but not turned on" features.

All my ideas are not perfect, maybe even some are wrong, you are free to post why they are wrong, or why you dont like them. MANY others seem to like them. Even players that hate me in game (due to PVP issues or "griefing" issues) have told me they like most of my ideas.
I think thats great when players have an open mind like that.

Even you making this thread like this is just you whining at players for being upset with the state of the game. Its really a topic of nothing more of a flame-bait and trolling people.

[Dubanka]

honestly the devs need to be extremely happy that they have veteran players who are still willing to play this game day in and day out, flaws and all.

i can't do it. I am unable to keep plodding away just because...so like many i sit and lurk and hope.

the funny thing is, that the devs haven't pleased anyone :p

It's not the carebear paradise that jad and company had hoped for.
It definitely isn't the open world pvp wonderland that I'd hoped for.

Furthermore, I, and i'd believe many others, really have no idea where it's going...which is the core of the problem.

What is the point of patience when you don't know what you're waiting for? Is it a pie coming out of the oven or a roast? Be patient, you can drink what's in the jug a little later...what's in the jug? wine? water? juice? milke? beer (mmm beer)? Be patient and you'll find out.

we do a lurch on fixing the combat system, then we jump over and jack with the architectural system, meanwhile disco issues pop up and remain unresolved for long periods of time. Shrug. patience is overrated.

definite props to all the folks who have continued to play throught all the uncertainty of the development process. keep up the good fight.

[Aethaeryn]

Remember when you first read about this game?

Remember when it said this was going to be the Prelude time, where things would change according to feedback from players and what could be done with the technology?

Remember where they said that nothing is in it's final state, and that as the game developed we would be a big part of what the game finally was?

Remember any of that???

If not that's partly the problem. Expectations are out of whack.

What we need is the patience to wait.

Wait till the very small team at NG is able to finish the work they are doing.
Wait till the recipe tweaks can be done... ( done right )
Wait till the loot tables are put where they need to be.
Wait till the game is in a state where lots of folks will be entertained better.

We have all developed an inflated sense of entitlement. NOBODY made any player here buy this game. It was a choice made by US. So if there is anyone to be upset with if we don't like something here... it is US. Yes, ME included.

And I know a few will retort, "It's on the feature page!! They lied to us!!!"

No they didn't ... not they didn't. NO, they didn't.

These were not promises, just features they were shooting for.

So let us ALL take a deep breath, remember it's a game and have fun with what you CAN do and have patience to wait for the cool things you will be able to do next.

For me it is very simple. I will be patient - but I will not pay to wait. Not hard feelings . . nothing expected.

[aliksteel]

Thank you all for giving me something to read while at work, This does help pass the day by, When stuck in an office.

Keep it going I still have 7 more hours to go.

[Yuyito]

I am one of those people that left the game due to its state. I do not have the time or the inclination to pay for an unfinished game that lacks direction or a clear vision of where it is going. Still lurk every so often because I have a small bit of hope the devs can turn things around and realize the vision that was "promised" so long ago.

As a lurker, I enjoy reading both the "haters", "fanbois" and every post in between. At least it shows there is a community of people (no matter how small) that still cares for this game enough to argue over it. A game is only truly dead when its forums become a ghost town...

P.S. Dubanka's observations pretty much bring home the point of the issues with Xsyon. It fails to satisfy the PvE "themebox" crowd as well as the PvP "FFA full-loot sandbox" crowd. Both segments are a niche segment within the larger MMO population but the game fails to even appeal to the niche.

...back to the occasional lurking as I know nobody cares what the departed have to say... :p

[Kinslayer]

I have many many friends that refuse to play due to missing features, and crashing, disconnects, lag etc.Oh come on DDT, you still making this same shit up? You cant seriously expect anyone to believe you have "many many friends". LMAO

I think Ill hit the nail on the head in his last post. The minority of players that are left here will not help this game and its development. The 1000's that have left have left because the game took a wrong turn and never came back, and as long as the same minority continue to steer this ship as far as community input is concerned, this game will continue to be heading in the wrong direction. Jooky should have listened when the many were talking. Im talking about all the "no safe zone" discussions, the discussions that addressed the need for better PvP systems, which should have been done before release, just to name a few.

I am not going to get into all the things I think need doing to this game again, they are all well enough documented, and Im sure Jooky has read them. Once Xsyon finds the path it was on in the first place again, and the development progresses from there in the right direction, then we may start seeing things improve. Of course, it would be better to perma ban the master griefer who thinks is doing such a great job helping this game, who instead is just hurting it. Wait for it, he'll post pretty quick after this. I'm not surprised that he's been banned in yet another game, shame it was permanent though.

[NorCalGooey]

I knew what I was getting into when I put the money down and so did a lot of others.I am happy with the game and its fun to be a part of it as it grows.

I also knew what I was getting into when I put money down for Earthrise I took a chance and wasent happy but I moved on I dont hang around there forums to bash it every chance I get.

TY

See this here is really wrong. A majority of us bought this game for the open world PvP, expansion and conquest, which isn't there whatsoever. We knew exactly what we were getting into (unfinished). We just didn't know that so little would be accomplished in 4 months it is truly pathetic.


I'm sorry, but this game develops too slowly for there to be any chance of it surviving...unless they can keep it r running with hardly any players and also keep negative rep to a minimum.


Why? They can't even fix how you learn architecture recipes in THREE WEEKS. That is horrible programming skills. If you tell me this is hard to code you don't know what you are talking about. Either this, or they were working solely on disconnection issues for 3 weeks...which speaks for itself....ha. But the coding is already there they just need to change the variables for recipe learning speed


Then you have the whole issue of their priorities. Completely ass backward. Yes, lets add in new architecture recipes that have no use whatsoever, before we add in anything that actually affects game play.




NO ONE knew what they were getting into (content wise..except what the features page said ofc), except for the fact that the game was unfinished. We had no idea there would be zero PvP or conquest in a sandbox game, where the #1 activity always has been and always will be the open world pvp (its not there in Xsyon, even with 10k players in the world, there would be little PvP).




It's really quite simple. Unprecedentedly slow coding coupled with horrible development priorities is killing this game. The ONLY reason I played as long as I did is because I expected some forward movement toward the game we all wanted to play. If I see that forward movement I would stay.








NG is in a huge dilemma. They had to release the game to keep development moving. However, releasing the game has caused a terrible reputation, almost irreversible. Now that the game is released, they need players to keep it running. BUT, they also know that players will not continue to play longer than maybe a week, so they cannot get the population part down. Unless they add in PvP and conquest and then people will come back to the game. However, this alone will not do it for NG. Their are far too many bugs and exploits and unfinished content BESIDES the PvP and conquest, that those alone will also ruin the player experience.

So, in a nutshell, NG MUST finish other development before it's last attempt at re population via a PvP conquest and warfare patch. Otherwise the war and conquest patch is all for none.

This will take a long time, so just keep an eye on the "mega pvp patch" to come as their last effort for re population. Try the game then, make your decision.

I have not given up on Xsyon, but the development is so painfully slow I'll be a grandfather by the time I get to play the completed "Feature Page Xsyon"




Major Xsyon content changes in 4 months

Crafted item decay
Animal AI
Combat changes that took forever, even though combat is hardly used in Xsyon
Arch recipes
Scav redistribution
Trees respawn.... (no agriculture, apparently more recipes for arch was more important lmao)

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Oh come on DDT, you still making this same shit up? You cant seriously expect anyone to believe you have "many many friends". LMAO

I think Ill hit the nail on the head in his last post. The minority of players that are left here will not help this game and its development. The 1000's that have left have left because the game took a wrong turn and never came back, and as long as the same minority continue to steer this ship as far as community input is concerned, this game will continue to be heading in the wrong direction. Jooky should have listened when the many were talking. Im talking about all the "no safe zone" discussions, the discussions that addressed the need for better PvP systems, which should have been done before release, just to name a few.

I am not going to get into all the things I think need doing to this game again, they are all well enough documented, and Im sure Jooky has read them. Once Xsyon finds the path it was on in the first place again, and the development progresses from there in the right direction, then we may start seeing things improve. Of course, it would be better to perma ban the master griefer who thinks is doing such a great job helping this game, who instead is just hurting it. Wait for it, he'll post pretty quick after this. I'm not surprised that he's been banned in yet another game, shame it was permanent though.

The only reason he hasn't been perma banned is because he plays this game 10 hours a day. They need him for bugs and exploits. Although, I'm sure he only reports bugs, not exploits :D DDT claims to be able to level up combat skills without hitting another player or AI. All I can think is exploit....which is simply a bug that is advantageous. He wouldn't tell me how.




I feel like i should end this post with something good NG has done since launch.

D/C issues are better than they were pre-July8th patch. I can run across the whole world without D/Cs while playing one account. Not on both accounts though, but still, it's a start.

[aliksteel]

So all this boils down to a question, What is better. Pointing everything out that does not work and saying the game will never work IF, or Overlooking what's wrong with the game and saying this game has all the potential of being a great game.

And even if MrDDT is doing 50% of all bug testing, I think there is still a lot of Haters, and Fanboys doing testing for the game and want the game to be great.

Ps. Please stop spitting out bull shit stat's as if they was facts. Unless you know everyone that has joined Xsyon and then left, No one knows how many people left for this or that reason. I would love to know a real stat, How many people that play Xsyon post or use in any way the forums. Because I see people (And damn myself for saying it from time to time) using the word "most", And I also hate seeing the words "majority, minority" as if any of us knows just how many people really do or don't want things in game.

Pss. All this was said way to damn early in the morning and I'm a coffee deprived caffeine addict.

[orious13]

I think we need brain surgeons because there are more than enough patients (lol) here...

...amirite?

[hoolash]

Says the guy who's been playing a week.:confused:

Yup, and the guy who's not QQ'ing about waiting. Does that answer your question?

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Doesnt make me less upset that people like the OP are posting saying we need to just be PATIENT when I believe we have. Dont blame the players because they are upset that the game isnt working right. When people post facts about how the game isnt fun, or combat is broken, or not able to play because of major issues like disconnecting every 5 to 10mins. These people dont need to be told "Hey just have PATIENCE" when we have been waiting over a year.

Telling me to "stop waiting and go play another game" from a guy that has been here a week or 2 is really a joke. Hey person thats been here a week or 2, maybe you should play the game before telling me to stop playing it. Once you learn that Im one of the most active members of the game you will might figure out that Im not going anywhere because I believe in the game.

People like the OP are fanbois that want to tell everyone "Hey the game is doing great, Im having so much fun". Instead of pointing out issues to get fixed, and helping test the game to get it to be truely fun. Yes they dont have to help test, they can do like this 2 week old person says to do. But telling the players to "have PATIENCE" is not the answer.

It's all just a simple suggestion. I've seen your posts on these forums and there's posts that point out flaws and there's posts that down talk the game. If I based my opinion solely on reading your "experienced" posts, I never would have come over to try this game in the first place. Saying anything from me is a joke and the posts about how I've been here one/two weeks really have no objective stance to a suggestion of finding another game, if you're so upset. I've been MMO gaming since 1996 and my intelligence level allows me to be a little ahead of the curve and I don't need more than two days to begin finding the flaws in the game. But hey, thanks for trying to say I'm ignorant. Posts of game assistance should be constructive and information based. Not that you don't have these posts, most are not so. My apologies for making a conclusion based on the information, facts, and posts you have made. My apologies for finding the disgruntledness in all posts, not just DDT's. This game will need a much better community to arrive if it plans to further develop. Otherwise, I fear this will eventually find itself pushed to the wayside. I certainly hope not as this is a game idea that I've been messing around with myself. My only issue is the finances to get it started. So, I'm here for a much deeper level of learning and experience than most are just spending their dollars to play a game. Learn to construct instead of tear down. We're not God destroying and rebuilding a temple in three days.

PS, DDT, I know you from DFO, I know how you are. I've never seen you happy. Again, my apologies for suggesting you find it.