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GuideRaguel
08-12-2011, 07:38 AM
Greetings Survivors!

We are currently looking for feedback on the current Scavenging system.
Please remember this is for the latest update.

We would like to know the following information...

- What items seem to rare?

- What items seem to common?

- Are there any items you are not finding at all, or not herd of any other player finding.

Larsa
08-13-2011, 05:26 AM
Zone 777, on junkpile. Junkpile not in any tribe land. Scavenging skill is 100, perception is 71.

1: (Nothing)
2: (Nothing)
3: 1 VHQ Patchwork leather
4: (Nothing)
5: 1 HQ Hoe head
6: 3 HQ Short metal posts (80% encumbered)
7: 3 MQ Aluminum long metal boards (encumbered)
8: 36 VHQ Beer tabs
9: 9 HQ Cobalt grass cloth scraps ("Cobalt" and "grass"???)
10: 2 HQ Steel long metal studs (50% encumbered)
11: (Nothing)
12: 76 HQ Quarters
13: (Nothing)
14: 73 HQ Bottlecaps
15: (Nothing)
16: (Nothing)
17: (Nothing)
18: 24 HQ Iron screws
19: (Nothing)
20: (Nothing)
21: 6 VHQ Stainless medium metal boards (fully encumbered)
22: (Nothing)
23: 10 HQ Grey Satin cloth scraps
24: 2 HQ Iron small metal blocks
25: (Nothing)
26: 6 HQ Bronze small metal sheets (50% encumbered)
27: 45 VHQ Beer tabs
28: 62 HQ Quarters
29: 2 MQ Small plastic sheets
30: 2 VHQ Aluminum medium metal boards
31: 3 MQ Stainless long metal boards (fully encumbered)
32: 1 HQ Bronze long metal boards
33: 1 VHQ Patchwork leather
34: (Nothing)
35: 4 VHQ Small plastic sheets
36: (Nothing)
37: (Nothing)
38: (Nothing)
39: (Nothing)
40: (Strange thing: game tells me I've uncovered something useful but nothing is added to inventory)
41: 1 HQ Lamp post head (90% encumbered)
42: (Nothing)
43: 2 VHQ Iron short metal boards
44: (Nothing)
45: 50 HQ Iron bolts
46: (Nothing)
47: (Nothing)
48: 1 HQ Found leather scraps
49: 1 HQ Patchwork leather
50: (Nothing)

My opinion: found a hoe head, thus weapon parts can be found again. That's a good thing. Finding one in 50 attempts is fine too. I've never before seen the Lamp post, a new item? Sadly even 1 piece of it is too heavy to bring home. That said, practically all metal boards, sheets, posts, etc. are too heavy to carry.

I still believe there's too many things like boards, sheets, cloth scraps and fabrics, leather that should not be scavengend but pulled out of junk.

Added after 1 20 minutes:

And, just for comparison, a junkpile outside of any tribe land in zone 776:

1: (Nothing)
2: 3 VHQ Iron small metal sheets
3: 1 VHQ Old saw blade
4: 2 VHQ Steel medium metal sheets
5: 1 VHQ patchwork leather
6: 4 VHQ Forest green linen cloth fabric
7: (Nothing)
8: 1 VHQ Steel small metal sheet
9: (Nothing)
10: 1 VHQ Patchwork leather
11: 59 VHQ Bronze nails
12: 95 MQ Iron rivets
12: 1 HQ Junk plastic
13: 1 VHQ Junk plastic
14: 3 VHQ Medium metal boards
15: 1 HQ Lamp post head
16: 30 HQ Brass nails
17: (Nothing)
18: (Nothing)
19: (Nothing)
20: 1 VHQ Found leather
21: (Nothing)
22: (Nothing)
23: 6 HQ Chinchilla fur scraps
24: 5 VHQ Aluminum long metal studs
25: (Nothing)
26: (Nothing)
27: 45 HQ Iron nails
28: 2 VHQ Long metal pipes (fully encumbered)
29: 5 HQ Aluminum medium metal boards (fully encumbered)
30: (Nothing)
31: 6 HQ Medium plastic sheets
32: (Nothing)
33: 33 HQ Stainless nails
34: (Nothing)
35: (Nothing)
36: (Nothing)
37: (Nothing)
38: (Nothing)
39: 3 VHQ Brass medium metal boards
40: (Nothing)
41: (Nothing)
42: 6 VHQ Medium plastic sheets
43: (Nothing)
44: (Nothing)
45: (Nothing)
46: (Nothing)
47: 4 HQ Short metal posts (fully encumbered)
48: 1 HQ Patchwork leather
49: (Nothing)
50: 44 HQ Beer tabs

soulless
08-13-2011, 06:16 AM
Did an hour or so of scaving last night... long path all accross the southern zones. didnt record it like above (nice work btw)... but i did start to find things that were not droping before (pick head, old pipe).

thurgond
08-13-2011, 08:51 PM
I've done 5-6 hours of scavenging since Friday's patch. Perception 83 and 100 scavenging. Here's my conclusions:

Leather/fur: Still way too common. Specially since you can get the basics through hunting and sorting. Did find coyote leather scraps and raccoon fur, so it may be possible to find the coyote/raccoon fur scraps now for lvl 70 recipes, but these should be at least as common as mink/sable/chinchilla. Since the big scavenging patch, I've gone from lvl 59 to 80 in leather crafting just on scavenged leather scraps and I've also filled up a bin with scraps.

Bones: Found one human round and a couple dog vertebra. Better than this was but could be more common, specially as it is the only source of human bones.

Weapon Parts: You can include old saw blades and old pipes since they also stack singly. Found six weapon parts and one old saw blade. This includes two giant drill bits which doubles the number I've found since the start of the game. Since these are "one at a time" items the frequency should increase.

Sheets/handles/blocks: Very common, and since they come in bunches the frequency could go way down. Even better, put them into the sorted metal/plastic table like metal was before and make them an uncommon scavenge result like rods/spikes/wedges/small metal plates are now.

Rods/spikes/wedges/small metal plates: Uncommon rather than rare now. New tool crafters aren't going to be grinding on metal spikes now, but workable since you can get these sorting.

Screws/bolts/nails/rivets: Very common. Could be decreased some to increase something else, but not a great deal since architecture and many crafts depend on fasteners.

Patterns: Found two after big scavenging patch but none since last patch. Shouldn't be as common as they were, but should still be more common than they are now. Rarity of patterns is a huge disadvantage for new players who don't have bins and bins full of patterns.

Money/tabs/caps/buttons: Still common. OK with this.

Boards/studs/poles/posts/pipes: Very common. Annoying (warning understatement) because of their weight. If I was looking for something specific for a construction project, then I would look more favorably on this, but still could be much less common. Putting these into sorted resources would make more sense since you wouldn't get overloaded unless you were looking to be.

Decorations/zippers/buckles/grips/scrap rubber : About right since they can also be found sorting.

Feathers: Found a few. Rare and should be common or at least uncommon.

Cloth: About right.

Weapons: Haven't found one. Happy about this since I'm a weapon crafter, and no other crafts have complete items that could be scavenged.

fatboy21007
08-14-2011, 11:53 PM
about the same as these folks said. Still needs a bit more increased but its picking up.

VeryWiiTee
08-15-2011, 04:27 AM
Well, with a bit higher recipe drop and a better definition of scavenging/sorting tables would do a whole lot.

I second Thurgond's observations as that is my own.
- Though leather from the scrap yard is statless and leather from animals have stats. So I see it more as 'basic' mats and animals for more uncommon..

It would be nice to see heavy objects that you commonly need to go through sorting whereas light and more rare needed items goes through scavenging.

inhabit
08-17-2011, 08:56 AM
After Larsa good post here is mine for comparison, i 100 scav 93 perception, and was scav large junk pile near my tribeland

1 nothing
2 VHQ leather book bindings
3 VHQ Stainless Long Metal handle
4 nothing
5 VHQ 11 iron rivets
6 nothing
7 nothing
8 HQ 40 Bronze Nails
9 nothing
10 HQ 3 long plastic boards
11 VHQ 4 long metal handle
12 nothing
13 nothing
14 HQ giant drill bit
15 nothing
16 nothing
17 nothing
18 nothing
19 nothing
20 nothing
21 HQ 4 Crimson silk cloth fabric
22 VHQ 34 Steel Screws
23 HQ 44 quarters
24 nothing
25 nothing
26 HQ 4 leather book bindings
27 VHQ steel zipper
28 nothing
29 nothing
30 HQ 2 Aluminium long metal board
31 VHQ 2 stainless small metal sheets
32 VHQ 59 pennies
33 HQ 2 small plastic sheets
34 nothing
35 VHQ 67 quarters
36 VHQ 1 found leather
37 nothing
38 nothing
39 HQ 1 patchwork leather
40 nothing
41 HQ 2 western tanager feathers
42 VHQ 6 medium plastic sheet
43 HQ 2 stainless long metal handle
44 VHQ 1 steel long metal board
45 nothing
46 nothing
47 nothing
48 HQ 4 leather book bindings
49 HQ 4 long concrete posts (over encumbered)
50 nothing

Rares found gaint drill bit, also 4 concre posts overencumbered on there own.

VeryWiiTee
08-19-2011, 08:16 PM
Although this really doesn't belong to the scavenge part, I find it incredibly strange that 3x4x4 sorted leather bundles over weight me, but a full 6x4x4 metal stack does not.

Primarily because all you get from sorting is items that comes in plenty through scavenging.

kazian
09-04-2011, 03:25 PM
all I seem to be finding is "long metal boards" and "metal posts" never had a recipe drop, never had a saw blade drop. all the other stuff is about right eg: Feather, Rare but not impossible!