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Young
02-03-2012, 05:25 AM
Hey guys im a returning player from beta and release Was just wondering if you could fill me in with some information on the updates over the last year? Ive seen a few of the bigger things that have been added but still alot i havent seen.

So yeah Hello everyone!

Niburu
02-03-2012, 06:06 AM
Best would be to join a tribe. I resubbed one month ago and saw already 2 really nice patches. ( carts, crafting window fix )

There is simply so much stuff. Usual bugfixing of course, tree planting,animal mutants, better breeding, gathering ressources is a skill now, movable GUI elements, enviroment sounds(ask darkfall player about that lol), lots of new items to find, lots of new architecture stuff, combat is totally different compared to release( no more mouse button dual wield smashing),carts,items to storage water

thats the things i can atleast remember within 5 min

Kakinski
02-03-2012, 06:24 AM
Which tribe are you Niburu ?

MrDDT
02-03-2012, 06:41 AM
Welcome Young to Xsyon.

Please click on my sig if you want more info about my tribe.

Kakinski, Niburu is in -IS-.

Young, there has been a LOT of changes. You can check the updates thread. But so many it would take a long time to post them all here.

Young
02-03-2012, 07:08 AM
Thanks for the information guys !

Niburu
02-03-2012, 07:30 AM
Which tribe are you Niburu ?

What DDT said. It helps to join a group of actives to get the basic stuff done

thurgond
02-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Welcome back brother Young.

One thing every returning and new player should know is that totems placed on or near junk can "poison" a large area of junk. Rare resources (mostly patterns/blueprints) will not be found within 75-100 m of a totem.

Ravelli

MrDDT
02-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Welcome back brother Young.

One thing every returning and new player should know is that totems placed on or near junk can "poison" a large area of junk. Rare resources (mostly patterns/blueprints) will not be found within 75-100 m of a totem.

Ravelli

1 thing every player should know, is that many people put out wrong info like this.
You do NOT have to be 75 to 100m away from a totem to find recipes.
You will find rare items outside of tribal lands (yours or others) but you dont need to be any set range outside them. 1m works as well as 1000m

fatboy21007
02-03-2012, 01:14 PM
Actually DDT it is 75m from a totems borders. Guide Mihr say's so. and id rather listen to him. So stop giving wrong info.

MrDDT
02-03-2012, 02:06 PM
I can bet if you wish to challenge me. Because I scav everyday.

First guides or devs dont know what the problems are or whats happening always. Just like stumps myth that guides and devs told me. This case they are wrong also. If you wish to place a bet on it, lets go with 5k screws that I can get a recipe 1m outside of any totem you choose.

Willowhawk
02-03-2012, 02:54 PM
My understanding is that you can get anything anywhere but that "Rare" drops will be much harder to get near Totems. I get recipes in the scrap pile not far from our tribe all the time, usually multiple schemes with little effort, but very rarely in the pile attached to our tribe property.

MrDDT
02-03-2012, 04:50 PM
My understanding is that you can get anything anywhere but that "Rare" drops will be much harder to get near Totems. I get recipes in the scrap pile not far from our tribe all the time, usually multiple schemes with little effort, but very rarely in the pile attached to our tribe property.

Yep, inside vs outside tribe makes a huge diff. Being further from a totem makes almost nothing from my testing. Granted Ive not fully tested it but you can surely scav anywhere outside a totem area and get rare items.

thurgond
02-03-2012, 05:45 PM
I stand by my original statement. I have done a lot of scavenging with an eye on nearby totems. It's impossible to tell the exact distance, but 75 m from a tribal boundary (or 100 m from a one person totem) sounds right for finding patterns/blueprints. If you can find a low level leather craft pattern in a spot, you can also find a master tool pattern or artisan's cart blueprint there. Really rare results like bones and fur also seem to be found away from tribal lands, but they occur so infrequently that it is harder to be sure of the pattern.

Scavenging over junk gives about (likely exactly) four times the chance of a result as elsewhere. I've found blueprints on granite, asphalt roads, etc. in areas far from what passes for pre- or post- apocalyptic civilization. But, as far as I can tell never on or adjacent to claimed land.

Ravelli

MrDDT
02-03-2012, 06:18 PM
I stand by my original statement. I have done a lot of scavenging with an eye on nearby totems. It's impossible to tell the exact distance, but 75 m from a tribal boundary (or 100 m from a one person totem) sounds right for finding patterns/blueprints. If you can find a low level leather craft pattern in a spot, you can also find a master tool pattern or artisan's cart blueprint there. Really rare results like bones and fur also seem to be found away from tribal lands, but they occur so infrequently that it is harder to be sure of the pattern.

Scavenging over junk gives about (likely exactly) four times the chance of a result as elsewhere. I've found blueprints on granite, asphalt roads, etc. in areas far from what passes for pre- or post- apocalyptic civilization. But, as far as I can tell never on or adjacent to claimed land.

Ravelli


Derailing this post more, however, I find them everyday 1m outside my tribal area. I have more blueprints than I can count. Infact the only place I scav now is 10m outside of a tribal area. I have 21 baskets lined in a row, all full of recipes, bones, chrome, blueprints, old saw blades.

If you wish to make a bet, Im more than happy to show you. I think it odd that you wont stand behind your claims and I will.

NorCalGooey
02-03-2012, 06:21 PM
I'll take the word over someone who has played more hours than all the guides combined.

:) Oh and has 104 perception unbuffed (whoops am I not suppose to tell people that?)

Anyways, something like this can only be clarified by Jordi. So no point arguing about it.

thurgond
02-03-2012, 11:04 PM
I'm stating my experience, not yours DDT. Your mileage may vary because your perception is over 100 or because your tribe is so big the distance from your boundary/totem is miscalculated.

I'm not considering old saw blades or chrome/titanium/gold metal bits as rares. I find them more often within my tribe's area because my perception is higher there.

Here's Jordy's explanation of how the revised scavenge tables work:

You will have to explore and get away from your safe zone for a good chance at new materials and architecture recipes.

I do find it strange that the three time champion of the world now only scavenges within 10 m of his safe zone.

In any case, a new/returning player would not even know that finding rare items within a tribal zone.

Ravelli

MrDDT
02-04-2012, 06:12 AM
I'm stating my experience, not yours DDT. Your mileage may vary because your perception is over 100 or because your tribe is so big the distance from your boundary/totem is miscalculated.

I'm not considering old saw blades or chrome/titanium/gold metal bits as rares. I find them more often within my tribe's area because my perception is higher there.

Here's Jordy's explanation of how the revised scavenge tables work:


I do find it strange that the three time champion of the world now only scavenges within 10 m of his safe zone.

In any case, a new/returning player would not even know that finding rare items within a tribal zone.

Ravelli


Thank you for the accolades however, I asked newer members once with much lower stats. They find recipes INSIDE the tribal areas. He was training up his skills and was doing it inside the tribe area and found it.

It's not just me. I think you have higher chances as you go more away from tribe areas. I believe this, but saying you wont find them is another matter. I believe inside vs outside of tribe area is a big chance, then as you go more and more from tribe areas you get a slightly better chance. This is likely why you cant limit down the range as its in both ranges and more.

Its so slight in fact, Im not even sure fully what it is. They do change things overtime and tweak stuff so maybe its changing and more testing is needed each week, but so far I see no real difference from my 1m scav area, and my 100m scav area. The only difference is the recipes I find not the # of them. IE in south I tend to find pioneer recipes. While in Tallac I tend to find trappers.