Pve server

[fatboy21007]

Would love to say, Awsome and Thank You!. with xsyon going on steam at some point, i def can see a nice pop boost coming soon! Those that may not or do remember me, im ancient here, i dont use the fourms much, dont play that much due to RL, but working on freeing up Rl time. Im very eager for this new server,steam release, cooking and farming and the new players it brings!. Who all here is eager?

[aliksteel]

Hey FatBoy, An ancient member of Hopi and Xsyon Mercenaries here, Did you say PVE, Cooking, and Farming?!? That will bring me back for sure. Am I eager? YES!!!

[Willowhawk]

We're still here in Raven Moon and can't wait for both the steam release and the new PVE server :) Also been crazy busy in RL, but still log in most every night.

[Jadzia]

Woo, what a thread for old players :) Alik, haven't seen you for ages, I missed you a lot !! Same for fatboy ! Can't wait to meet you guys on the PvE server :)

[Anon386]

Where is the thread explaining this PvE server? I too would resubscribe to Xsyon if PvP like activities where disabled.

[fatboy21007]

http://www.xsyon.com/entry.php/79-Developer-Update-03-11-2014 <-------- there ya go Anon.

[Anon386]

Wish there was more information. Its cool to see a firm Developer commitment to making PvE.

Q: Can I transfer my toon too PvE? And along these lines what will be the rules for moving characters between the two server types?
Q: Will there be game mechanics that prevent attacking other players? This would be apposed to using a system where players can attack others but doing so will result in game moderator intervention and penalization.
Q: Are there any other difference? Like how we can take things from a basket off tribe land and belonging to another which some view as stealing. I'm assuming hand carts are still secure.

[aliksteel]

Woo, what a thread for old players :) Alik, haven't seen you for ages, I missed you a lot !! Same for fatboy ! Can't wait to meet you guys on the PvE server :)

Hello beautiful, Missed you too, We will have to find some land close to each other.

[Riverspirit]

Hi everyone! I can't wait for the PVE server and to see you all again in game. :cool:

[fatboy21007]

Anon, Pve server will NOT have pvp, everything else is the same, Everything on the main server will BE on the pve server and will be close to recent playing times. Only change is, There wont be pvp at all, itll be turned off, everything else u can do ingame that isnt pvp, you can do! Also, im very eager for this hehe, My tribes open to all those returning! (for pve server) Yes, im still disorganized, BUT! i got like 20 carts made in the storage building ready to get organized hahaha! Tell ur friends, go in ur inboxs, wake up past players, Something we waited a very very long time will finally be happening! :-)

[Jadzia]

Hello beautiful, Missed you too, We will have to find some land close to each other.
Absolutely ! Can't wait :)


Hi everyone! I can't wait for the PVE server and to see you all again in game. :cool:

Glad to see you too, seems the new server will be a lot of fun :)

[Deacon]

is the population great enough to handle both types of servers? how will disputes be settled ?

[Dzarren]

nice too see so many old names with interes in the game, hope rainy river returns too
I myself still have an tribe in game but dorment till next update justkeeping it alive.
hope to see many of you ingame soon

[znaiika]

On pve server there will not be any kind of open pvp and players will not be able to loot other players.
Glad to see people coming back.

[Anon386]

Renewed my subscription, looking forward to PvE!

[kgaming870]

Very nice a pve server :) What about new servers location, Europe maybe ?

[Zeka]

A pve server will make me check out the game again

[Murk]

Yup, I'm glad too, not that pvp ever affected me much.

I read in the announcements that everything on the pvp server will now be on the pve server? If I move my toon to pve server, what happens to her buildings etc. on the pvp server? Do they just sit there? Are they totally gone?

This should be interesting.

[fatboy21007]

an exact image of the server will be copied to the pve server, so u loose nothing :-) But stuff on the pvp server will probally decay over time since youll no longer be playing on that server

[Kegan]

Well if they are going to copy over everything that is a shame we will still have to deal with all the dug up places and exhausted junk piles. Seems like you would get a better response with a fresh server that did not have all that.

[Eyesgood]

I agree with Kegan. The new server should be pristine so that players get to start fresh making and doing all the things that make for a great experience in Xsyon. If everything is identical, it is no different than just flipping a switch and turning off PVP. That's not really a launch in my opinion. I don't mean to be critical, but that is a pretty lazy and lame way to launch a new server. :(

[Jadzia]

I agree with Kegan. The new server should be pristine so that players get to start fresh making and doing all the things that make for a great experience in Xsyon. If everything is identical, it is no different than just flipping a switch and turning off PVP. That's not really a launch in my opinion. I don't mean to be critical, but that is a pretty lazy and lame way to launch a new server. :(
Although I'd prefer a fresh new PvE server too, I can understand why Xsyon decided to copy the current server. He wants to give the opportunity to the current players to choose the PvE server too, and there are people who have been playing for years, have good skills and stats and have built great structures. These players probably wouldn't want to give up everything, so they would be forced to stay on the old server.

[Eyesgood]

I see your point and it is valid. However, I think there is actually great incentives for high-skilled players to start over. Starting over means you can decide to choose another location on the map based on the acquired knowledge from playing. Also, starting over allows you to focus on different skills and to remedy the many decisions made originally. I think more would be willing to start over given that the journey is more fun than the end game.

[Kegan]

Well to be fair they just want to keep there over stuffed tribes with players that have not been on in years. Well at least that is how it use to work but maybe they have fixed that. If a player is not active and paid subscription it should not count to the tribe size. But either way they said they were going to add in a feature where land reverted back to the pristine state over time lets just hope they get that done soon and maybe make it a new option for terraforming to put back as original.

[Eyesgood]

I am pretty sure free players no longer contribute to tribe size.

[Willowhawk]

Although I'd prefer a fresh new PvE server too, I can understand why Xsyon decided to copy the current server. He wants to give the opportunity to the current players to choose the PvE server too, and there are people who have been playing for years, have good skills and stats and have built great structures. These players probably wouldn't want to give up everything, so they would be forced to stay on the old server.

I have to agree with Jadzia. Xsyon is the most challenging building and crafting game I have ever played. We have played (and paid) diligently for 3 years to build what we now have and starting over has no appeal whatsoever.

If I remember correctly, the original concept of the game was to rebuild our civilization from the ruins. To evolve and grow, build cities and roads, bring back (learn) the old technologies we lost in our destruction. To build a world created by players, an ongoing evolution as new skills and new technologies come along (New features added) the world and we evolve.

Our home has grown into a city now, a safe welcome place in the extreme dangerous wilderness for any would be travelers, hunters or traders with roads that others can build on or continue on to other destination around the know world. Whether you start from scratch or as things are now, the world of Xsyon is still in it's infancy and there are Farms, villages, towns, cities, roads, Bridges and homes to build as well as the vast unexplored world shrouded in green mist waiting to open up when the population merits.

That is why I stayed for three years, and that is why starting over has no appeal to me. :)

[Eyesgood]

Well spoken Willowhawk! Having tasted fresh, clean maps over on Wurm (also extremely deep crafting and skill progression) I know the excitement they bring, especially to new players but perhaps less so for older, established players as yourself. :)

[GuideXaphan]

The new map thing that Wurm seems to do more than needed at times only lasts for a short period of time. After people start populating areas and tearing the terrain up you have the same thing as before and discussion on the forums about needing a new map, a fresh start. Rinse and repeat.

What Wurm has now is about 10 servers now? All splitting the population and they serve no purpose other than for those bored with the old landscape looking for that fresh start until they get bored with it again. It's a never ending thing over there and it's why Rolf opened so many servers. He gets a massive pop boost and then 3-4 months the pop dies back down to 1k active but now you have that spread over 10 or more servers. I think he would be better served to have 4-5 at best but it seems all the new ones are much much smaller too.

A new server, fresh clean start, is always nice to begin with but eventually you end up with the same talk and same thing some months down the road. Everyone wants a fresh new map and it continues over and over. I think I made a image once showing 100 servers on a cluster and each had maybe 10-20 people per map. :) It was a joke but not so much considering how many the game has now. I will only concede that it does bring in new people but those eventually go away and you're left with a resource hog that isn't needed and I also agree with willow.

Wait on terrain revision, Jordi has expressed that he wants to get this finished and on the servers. This will take care of that ugly landscape complaint and lack of nice areas to populate. It'll also be very neat to watch things revert and you'll experience something new with how things used to look before it got messed with.

[Phelim]

Oh, so if I start playing on the new PVE server, I'm not on a brand new server, but a long established server already developed, with characters and tribes long established?

Well, I understand the reasoning, that the goal of the PVE server was more in hopes to bring back old players who quit, more than anything else. But,as a new player, I can certainly say that the interest I had when I heard there was a new PVE server really isn't there anymore. Well, best of luck, folks. Hopefully this will work out for the game. Never good to see a game die.

[GuideXaphan]

The PvE server was to give that option. A lot of players expressed leaving because there was no PvE server and they were essentially forced to venture out from their tribe which is no pvp and possibly be involved in the thing they didn't want to be a part of. There was also some online discussion on another site along with a poll that pointed towards players wanting a PvE option as well as Jordi speaking with people in the mmo market that expressed that PvE has a much larger player base than PvP will ever pull in or have.

Tribes will abandon on both servers as players stick to one or the other. With the coming addition of terrain reversion that will revert the landscape back to how it was when the map was first opened to players, this is something no other game that I can think of does. That should take care of people complaining about not having untouched land to settle.

[MrDDT]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wont active accounts 1 server keep both tribes active? I thought I read that.

[GuideXaphan]

I was speaking of free to play or guest accounts but a paid account will keep the tribe active on both. Eventually as people come and go you'll see those tribes go away.

http://www.xsyon.com/entry.php/82-Patch-Notes-03-17-2014

Paid sub as you mention will keep the tribe active on both servers.

[MrDDT]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Arkonick]

Thank you Jooky I'm sorry for leaving you after helping you get started and funding you in the beginning but PVP was never my thing. Glad to see you finally Making the PVE server cause honestly there are millions more PVE fans than PVP gamers in the world. Not going to say the 4 words all people dread hearing. But awesome Job It's great to be back supporting a Sandbox I liked playing.

Just re subbed today on 4/4/2014 Starting date for me was back in 02/13/2011

[znaiika]

Welcome back Arkonick.

[alexpono]

PvE is awsome :)

[Sparky]

I am pretty sure free players no longer contribute to tribe size.

Yes, but the retired players who may never play again, if they bought an actual paid account at some time, still count.

[alexpono]

Join us today !

[Hodo]

Mercenaries on a PVE server, people wanting a sandbox without fighting, or threat of danger, why would you subscribe for that when you can get it for free or nearly free in several other forms online and offline?

I still don't understand this drive to create another server to further divide an already microscopic population.

[znaiika]

Mercenaries on a PVE server, people wanting a sandbox without fighting, or threat of danger, why would you subscribe for that when you can get it for free or nearly free in several other forms online and offline?

I still don't understand this drive to create another server to further divide an already microscopic population.

That microscopic population growing well on pve server, thanks for asking.

[Arkonick]

Mercenaries on a PVE server, people wanting a sandbox without fighting, or threat of danger, why would you subscribe for that when you can get it for free or nearly free in several other forms online and offline?

I still don't understand this drive to create another server to further divide an already microscopic population.

That's because pvp isn't the biggest gaming community in the world PVE is and will be for years to come. People long for peace and shun war only a handful want war.