Possible Tribal Competition? Let Us Know What You Think!

[GuideIsrafel]

Dear Xsyonians!

It's been quite some time since we've had a tribal competition here in Xsyon, and with the recent release of Xsyon to steam we're seeing more new faces and tribes than we have in a while! So with that we would like to ask you tribe leaders out there just how many of you would be willing to help us, the guide team, by building a pair of Capture the Flag forts on the PvP server? Now I know most of you play on the PvE server, but thats ok! Because your entry fees can be paid from either server, and the winner of the contest can claim thier prize on which ever server they want! So that means that those of you who play full time on PvE can revisit your PvP server tribes, tear them down and make some awesome forts for future Capture the Flag events, which if all goes well will have the same entry/prize server distribution!

So with that let us know what you think, if we get enough interest then we'll move forward with setting up the contest next week, and don't worry we'll give you ample time and a set of guidelines to help you with your creations!


Guide Israfel,

[Pwnuts]

Now I know most of you play on the PvE server

indeed, and there was plenty of event ideas without pvp some time back. if i want to play capture the flag i can install UT2003 or such. guess its a reason why most ppl play on pve.
veto for me

[GuideIsrafel]

I can assure you that over the next few weeks we will have many events for both pve and pvp players. This is an event to help mingle the 2 servers and inspire creativity in those who love to build as so many pve players love doing.

[Willowhawk]

Raven Moon tribe is a bit remote, but if we aren't too far out there for this type of event then I'm in. I've been trying to decide what to do with our tribe on PVP and this could be a lot of fun. If you could give us a better idea of what we are to build that would help. In other words I'm guessing that the Flag (whatever it may be) needs to be accessible and not behind locked gates and walls. Will all forts need to be same building type to keep things even, etc. Thanks, and looking forward to this event :)

[GuideIsrafel]

Yes both forts would be semetrical. I haven't decided if there will be 2 flags or if there will be a center neutral flag. Im going to look for player feedback on that. But yes they will have to be simetrical so that no one has the advantage. And the tribes can be as remote as they like we will be teleporting players.

[wastelandstoic]

More details but sounds interesting. One hitch with competitive type events in the past has been players of different skill/ HP levels and balancing. If enough thought is used here it should be fun for all.

Hmm, just a thought but what if there were 2 ways to win a reward? One for the 'best' build (to let just the PvE build people get recognized) and one for the actual competition (to recognize the PvP folks)?

[GuideIsrafel]

We would like people to focus on making the build on pvp so it could be used for the games. But if it goes over eell enough we plan on doing more building competitions in the future. This will be functional and also allow players to hold thier own events. Also for the capture the flag game we plan on having an actual flag that acts like a large log on your back and slows you down considerably.

[GuideIsrafel]

For those of you wondering why the pole was changed, it was going against what this topic was meant to be about. This thread is about those who "want" to participate in such a competition not those who do not. If you want to participate that is wonderful, if you don't then you don't have to but the topic is meant to gauge the interest of how many do. So please let us know if you want to participate, we still need a few more votes to make the prize pool worth the effort!

[Whorlok]

I think its a nice Idea with those FLAGS for Capture the Flag in Game! Those Flags are a wonderful idea also for other events!
But a other idea to those FLAGS/CHEST/MAGIC STONE is:
a.) design a simple small temple-house (small simple model) which each tribe can craft and place in her city
b.) Those FLAGS (from the planned CAPTURE THE FLAG Events) the GM can now also place it around the world on nice places (with dangeruos NPC animals or epic REVENANTS)or as a RANDOM SPAWN IN THE WORLD!
c. If you found those flags in the wilderness and bring it back to your City/tribe and lay it in the TEMPLE HOUSE you earn a random rewart example 10 extrem rare random resources(ore other things as books)
The same thing also for the planned CAPTURE THE FLAG EVENTS!..If player are bringing a flag back to her startpoint and lay them into the TEMPLE-HOUSE the rewart from 10 extrem rare resources(or other random things) appears in the temple house storage and the flag diappears

I think many many players on the PVE or PVP Server are now wanted play those EVENTS or found those FLAGS in the wilderness to earn extrem rare random resources or random BOOKS!

[Pwnuts]

this reminds me to " do you vote for stalin? no. - then you are not allowed to vote. lol!!
so if there are 6:2 negative votes the voting will be changed to only positive results, interesting kind of demecracy.

seems to continue the architechture contest mihr was successful running a few times is not good enough enymore.


I think many many players on the PVE or PVP Server are now wanted play those EVENTS or found those FLAGS in the wilderness to earn extrem rare random resources or random BOOKS!
in a online world without npcs, where ppl have to gather and build up everything, there was already to much stuff given away from guides which is no supossed to be in the game. dont see a point to create more non-craftable items and unbalance the economy. same for recipes and such.

[MrDDT]

Items given in events should not be excessive amounts and shouldn't be things that players normally couldn't get on their own with work/effort.

One of the major reasons I think people are upset with how ISBC has a lot of the best items in the game simply because we did all the old events.

Sad part is, it forces players like me to goto events that I don't even like just to get the special items, making it less fun for other players when simple events are dominated by vets. Like a fishing contest, or combat battle.

[Dabent]

For those of you wondering why the pole was changed, it was going against what this topic was meant to be about. This thread is about those who "want" to participate in such a competition not those who do not. If you want to participate that is wonderful, if you don't then you don't have to but the topic is meant to gauge the interest of how many do. So please let us know if you want to participate, we still need a few more votes to make the prize pool worth the effort!

So if we want to play but don't like the way it is being set up we have to be quite? (vote for me or do not vote) I would love to play but NOT on PvP! As a new player I do not want to fight DDT or williow or anyone else that has a HUGE advantage over me. I also do not want to be ganked by people not it the competition just to lose the few good items I have.
A good idea for the vets and a way for them to get more crap they do not need. How about an event that includes everyone not just the guys that have been here since beta. I would love to participate but not this way. Just leave the noobs out in the cold and focus on the same old people that have all in game stuff they need.
Come on can't you see what this is? A game for the old players. Give the newer players a chance at this kind of stuff.

[Pwnuts]

good point dabent. nobody would join a event if there is no reward, and i agree that its a kind of feeding players who already have lots of stuff. right now the economy is so messed up, people who have a recipe they know with their 5 alts, still sell it for 50k dollars. a new player who would like to know it cant even reach the price. and still they want to get more of them just for greedy reasons.
dunno what could be a reward, maybe additional time to the subscription, or a steam coupon to let a friend start the game for 50% less. but not that gate/canopy/roof BPs only to horder more and give new players a reason to quit. ppl telling me my prices are to low. yes they are to low, for old players. doesnt matter they are great for new players who do not have this stuff.

well back to topic. server has been splitted and pvp server is running not very well, got it. but that wont change if 3 player of the pve server go there to run a even 1x per 3month. as ddt said, its a way to force people to join events they dont even like only to get a reward. a event should be to entertain player, to have fun, not to just lure ppl with the expectation that they get something for it.

[GuideIsrafel]

We understand that combat is imbalanced between the old players and new players, we plan on balancing out the fights so give your veteran player the flag so he can tank and the newer players run interference. It will require teamwork and planning.

Also we do understand that in the past items were handed out that were hard if not impossible to get by non-winners. It will not be the case here. These competitions will be funded by the players with entry fees, and they can redeem the prize on which ever server they want to give reward to pve players should they join us.

Continue playing on the pve server, but this will give players a reason to build combat characters on the pvp server so they can enjoy both aspects of the game with a single account.

As for the change in poll this was not a thread created for people who do not want to participate, I understand there are people with prejudice toward the pvp server and afraid that it might take away from the pve server and in so voted no with multiple account to dissuade those that would enjoy such an event. But with this we are finding out who would like to participate in the building contest not those do not want to.

[GuideIsrafel]

This thread has been locked please see the new thread with changes to how the event will be held at:

http://www.xsyon.com/showthread.php/9281-Up-Coming-Fortress-Event-Changes