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I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Can someone convince me that the Open World PvP aspect of this game won't interfere with what I enjoy doing? Ie, hunting and gathering for hours at a time.
I have seen folks talk about the "consequences" of "ganking" in PvP but I am still not sure the folks this game seems to be trying to cater too will enjoy playing.
In my experience, Crafters and Open World PvP just, simply, do not work well together.
I see a game that appears to target the Crafter/PvE crowd yet forces PvP with the Open World PvP aspect.
I am Pre-Ordering this game and will give it a chance but the first few time I end up "ganked" in 1 evenings worth of play time. Consider me gone with my sub and cash.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
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I am Pre-Ordering this game and will give it a chance but the first few time I end up "ganked" in 1 evenings worth of play time. Consider me gone with my sub and cash.
So join a tribe and gather with others or be prepared to eventually get killed and quit.
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I am Pre-Ordering this game and will give it a chance but the first few time I end up "ganked" in 1 evenings worth of play time. Consider me gone with my sub and cash.
So join a tribe and gather with others or be prepared to eventually get killed and quit.
Yeah, thats the type of post that will garner interest based on what the game advertised itself to be.
Your an idiot.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Kunra wrote:
Say what you want, but whining and name calling makes you look so much better...
You read the list of features in the game. You know PvP is included, yet you huff and puff about not liking it and don't want it to be in the game. I read your thread on the mmorpg forum about how you want PvP removed so you will play. Now you come on here threatening to leave after getting ganked before even playing.
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
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Say what you want, but whining and name calling makes you look so much better...
You read the list of features in the game. You know PvP is included, yet you huff and puff about not liking it and don't want it to be in the game. I read your thread on the mmorpg forum about how you want PvP removed so you will play. Now you come on here threatening to leave after getting ganked before even playing.
You think I am the only one? You think I am a minority thinking all aspects of this game are great except for the Open World PvP?
Do you really think this game will actually prosper and be PROFITABLE based on the Open World PvP aspect of the game?
Yeah, right.
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Kunra wrote:
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Say what you want, but whining and name calling makes you look so much better...
You read the list of features in the game. You know PvP is included, yet you huff and puff about not liking it and don't want it to be in the game. I read your thread on the mmorpg forum about how you want PvP removed so you will play. Now you come on here threatening to leave after getting ganked before even playing.
You think I am the only one? You think I am a minority thinking all aspects of this game are great except for the Open World PvP?
Do you really think this game will actually prosper and be PROFITABLE based on the Open World PvP aspect of the game?
Yeah, right.
dark fall is doing fine so why not
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
necoo wrote:
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
I'm not going to try arguing with you since you already seem to believe that all your opinions are correct and that you speak for the majority of the player base. However, you keep getting hung up on the open world PvP thing like it's going to be similar to Darkfall or other FFA PvP centric games, which we've already been told Xsyon won't be.
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Kunra wrote:
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
necoo wrote:
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Say what you want, but whining and name calling makes you look so much better...
You read the list of features in the game. You know PvP is included, yet you huff and puff about not liking it and don't want it to be in the game. I read your thread on the mmorpg forum about how you want PvP removed so you will play. Now you come on here threatening to leave after getting ganked before even playing.
You think I am the only one? You think I am a minority thinking all aspects of this game are great except for the Open World PvP?
Do you really think this game will actually prosper and be PROFITABLE based on the Open World PvP aspect of the game?
Yeah, right.
dark fall is doing fine so why not
Are you kidding me?
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Kunra wrote:
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Say what you want, but whining and name calling makes you look so much better...
You read the list of features in the game. You know PvP is included, yet you huff and puff about not liking it and don't want it to be in the game. I read your thread on the mmorpg forum about how you want PvP removed so you will play. Now you come on here threatening to leave after getting ganked before even playing.
You think I am the only one? You think I am a minority thinking all aspects of this game are great except for the Open World PvP?
Do you really think this game will actually prosper and be PROFITABLE based on the Open World PvP aspect of the game?
Yeah, right.
1. yes
2.Yes
3. Yes
Have faith in this game. Open world pvp really is the ONLY kind of pvp.
Also it is not simply OPEN pvp. There are some restrictions.
The pvp aspect is based on a number of things...looting is the biggest things restricting this open world pvp.
This is all from what i gathered, it is subject to change/misinformation but this is what i heard.
1. there will be a timer on looting for some so that allies could loot your body before the instigator.
2. You can only loot based on a number of things (full loot on warring tribes) (can set it to 1 peice of loot between tribes also i think)
3. In the prelude i believe there will be safezones, which the prelude will account for a long time and what comes next could easily change.
Instead of flaming someones suggestions please just use your brain and don't hit submit.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Kunra wrote:
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
necoo wrote:
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Whether or not open world PVP works is entirely dependent on how it is implemented.
I play another game, Wurm, which has open world PVP. The graphics are much cruder than Xsyon, but in a lot of ways is it similar, even superior to what Xsyon will likely be at release - it's been around a while with lots of features and depth that have been added over time. Open world PVP works fine in Wurm on the Wild server. As long as you either set up your home in a out of the way place, or settle in an established community, you are rarely exposed to PVP because it takes for friggin ever to find the hiders, and attacking a town with decent fighters in it is a long and drawn out affair. Days, or even weeks, for a well defended town to be worn down.
It remains to be seen how well terraforming and village defenses stack up against terraforming and siegers in Xsyon. It remains to be seen how large of a bloodletter community is drawn here.
If you want to be in the center of things, AND be a crafter, you are almost certainly going to need to join a strong faction that can protect you mostly by reputation. A strong faction will need strong crafters to manufacture the goodies required to beat on their enemies and build their fortifications.
Don't write off the game if you get ganked a couple times. You likely will while the community settles in and people learn the fighting system and start crafting skill gains for weapons and armor. If the people you work with can't offer protection after a couple weeks of live, at that point you will probably want to either take up pvp skills to protect yourself as best as you can, or seek out a stronger PVP group that needs your crafting skills and is willing to put up with a carebear in their midst. :laugh:
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
that... would be pointless... i already have over 100... besides i don't really care about things like that
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
Dont look at me Nate, your the only one so far to actually tried to convince me based on the Topic.
Some folks just seem to want to post because they can, whether or not if they should.
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Kunra wrote:
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
Dont look at me Nate, your the only one so far to actually tried to convince me based on the Topic.
Some folks just seem to want to post because they can, whether or not if they should.
you asked us to convince you that open pvp world will not interfere with what you like to do... what you asked was imposable because open world pvp will interfere with what you like to do. regardless if you ever get killed by anyone or not your actions will still be influenced by the risk of the open world pvp. by telling you ways to avoid interactions with pvpers i was, in effect, demonstrating how you would be effected by the game mechanics of this game's pvp aspects... perhaps i should have explained this earlier... however something like this shouldn't be too hard for someone to connect the dots as it were
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
Dont look at me Nate, your the only one so far to actually tried to convince me based on the Topic.
Some folks just seem to want to post because they can, whether or not if they should.
you asked us to convince you that open pvp world will not interfere with what you like to do... what you asked was imposable because open world pvp will interfere with what you like to do. regardless if you ever get killed by anyone or not your actions will still be influenced by the risk of the open world pvp. by telling you ways to avoid interactions with pvpers i was, in effect, demonstrating how you would be effected by the game mechanics of this game's pvp aspects... perhaps i should have explained this earlier... however something like this shouldn't be too hard for someone to connect the dots as it were
dude no one here is a retard, you don't need to tell anyone "how to avoid pvpers". You basically just wasted my time by posting this bologna.
To get things settled:
1. World pvp = GOOD
2. world pvp = somewhat limited by other factors
3. World pvp = depends on how it is implemented exactly to ensure its success.
Have a good night.
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first off... don't be an idiot... if you are going to be gathering materials and all that be sure to pay attention to your surroundings... also it would be wise to not to go out for hours on end, but rather returning to your town or tribe every hour or so to store whatever you find and gather. also just watching out for other players will not be enough im sure that even npc will be capable of defeating you... and i don't think that they will simply ignore you like they would in most other games. also this game world is ever expanding and will become quite vast if you are exploring or trying to find new areas with materials it is unlikely that you will find someone who wants to kill you as the people who thirst for blood would most likely go to areas that they are more likely to find someone that has good stuff on them to kill. anyway this is an open pvp world... if you can't fight you will eventually get killed and lose whatever you may have... assuming the one who killed you can carry everything that you have... of course if you just get knocked unconscious you will only lose one item
And another person who has 0 concept of what it means to actually make this game survive.
don't be an arrogant asshole... i just gave you a good list of things you can do to survive in this game... if you are unwilling to put effort into whatever you are doing then you shouldn't be playing games in the first place, find a more constructive use of your time or sit back and relax as you stuff your face full of popcorn growing ever fatter as you continue to relax in front of the tv.
It's not arrogants, it's common sense.
common sense is only common sense if it is common
Wow...simply..wow.
what... you know its true
why do i get the sense this is the same person arguing with him/herself pointlessly over nothing to get a few extra post counts?
Dont look at me Nate, your the only one so far to actually tried to convince me based on the Topic.
Some folks just seem to want to post because they can, whether or not if they should.
you asked us to convince you that open pvp world will not interfere with what you like to do... what you asked was imposable because open world pvp will interfere with what you like to do. regardless if you ever get killed by anyone or not your actions will still be influenced by the risk of the open world pvp. by telling you ways to avoid interactions with pvpers i was, in effect, demonstrating how you would be effected by the game mechanics of this game's pvp aspects... perhaps i should have explained this earlier... however something like this shouldn't be too hard for someone to connect the dots as it were
dude no one here is a retard, you don't need to tell anyone "how to avoid pvpers". You basically just wasted my time by posting this bologna.
To get things settled:
1. World pvp = GOOD
2. world pvp = somewhat limited by other factors
3. World pvp = depends on how it is implemented exactly to ensure its success.
Have a good night.
well this entire thread was a wast of time to begin with... if someone would just look around a bit they would find everything that was said in this thread some where else on this forum with ease
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
lol why is everyone feeding Kunra?
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Can someone convince me that the Open World PvP aspect of this game won't interfere with what I enjoy doing? Ie, hunting and gathering for hours at a time.
I have seen folks talk about the "consequences" of "ganking" in PvP but I am still not sure the folks this game seems to be trying to cater too will enjoy playing.
In my experience, Crafters and Open World PvP just, simply, do not work well together.
I see a game that appears to target the Crafter/PvE crowd yet forces PvP with the Open World PvP aspect.
I am Pre-Ordering this game and will give it a chance but the first few time I end up "ganked" in 1 evenings worth of play time. Consider me gone with my sub and cash.
What you have to see about this game that it attracts 2 type of players. Some of them comes here for the open PvP (most of them are ex-Darkfall players or still plays that), some of them because of the exploring-building-crafting features. PvPers seem to be interested in PvP only, many of them stated that they don't plan to do anything else in the game. The other type of players are eager to see and try all of the features in the game. I do have hope that PvPers will fall in love with other features too, and will realize that PvP isn't the only source of fun.
So far its clear that the developers don't want a PvP focused game. They created a great deep game, dumbing it down to PvP focused would be a huge waste of their efforts.
Some posts from the developers to convince you :
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There should be enough in place for the game to not turn into a gankfest. The intention of Xsyon is to be a fun, open, sandbox game with possibilities for all kinds of players. If the game starts to get thrown off balance by gankers, the balance will shift. Simple as that.
Ideally, we would have one well balanced world, where most PVP is friendly sparring (not resulting in death) and where evil players really feel like game 'monsters' but with better, unpredictable AI.
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Totally, a good system will make it so there are a few evils, a bit more antis and everyone else in the middle.
Yes, this is the goal and if things don't seem balanced enough at first, we will adjust the system to achieve this goal.
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indeed, the idea of combat mode is to allow those who want to run away to do so.
This game, while it has PVP, is not PVP focused. The idea is to form a balance for the two.
Why not take more energy? Running and swinging a club will surely tire you out quiet quickly. If this is not liked then have it use both the energy loss of running and the energy loss of combat.
The idea is not so that crafters can run away but also other fighters should they wish.
If the fighter thinks he will run out of energy before taking out his prey then maybe he should not pursue. It would only be the fighters own fault if he ran out of energy, just like it would in any real melee combat.
I suggest you to read this thread too, very good informations there:
http://xsyon.com/forums/7-public-sup...ions-for-jooky
PvP is being reworked now, but the developers' original goal to keep the game balanced and free from griefing-ganking hasn't changed.
And don't give up on the game for being killed once or twice :) The game needs time to get balanced and settled down, give it time to see if its for you.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Please tell me this is some sort of giant troll.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
In fact many people have done the error to come here and think this would be another DF or MO clone and when they realize the truth about this game and how PvP works they get mostly angry because of their repressed aggressiveness.
No trolling here.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
If you read above the only anger i see is from a PvE/crafter raging saying they will quit after getting killed once or twice, that's the only anger i see here.
It's funny because last I've heard it was fairly easy to catch up to someone in PvP.. Think it had to do with how combat mode is the same as any other movements now.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Iron Maiden wrote:
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If you read above the only anger i see is from a PvE/crafter raging saying they will quit after getting killed once or twice, that's the only anger i see here.
It's funny because last I've heard it was fairly easy to catch up to someone in PvP.. Think it had to do with how combat mode is the same as any other movements now.
No trolling, all of those posts were written by Jordi and Virtus. Or you mean they were trolling their own game ?
And I think PvP is broken right now, the last thing I've read was that if someone's health drops under 30% the server crashes. Thats a harsh solution to avoid PKing !!! (jk lol)
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Lol that would stink, i don't think that's the case really i'm usually in vent when iLLmaculate kills someone - unless they die at 30% and the server crashes for the person that gets wrecked.
There are also posts about how combat mode has been changed and PvP needed re-working so i guess we won't really know until the game comes out eh?
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Iron Maiden wrote:
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Lol that would stink, i don't think that's the case really i'm usually in vent when iLLmaculate kills someone - unless they die at 30% and the server crashes for the person that gets wrecked.
There are also posts about how combat mode has been changed and PvP needed re-working so i guess we won't really know until the game comes out eh?
Thats a question if the people try to get away from iLLmaculate or they stand to fight....but I agree with you, we won't really know how PvP really works till the games launches. So no need to worry before hand...from both sides. I preordered the game and the 2 months of free play will be during early prelude where the tribe areas will be safe zones...if after that period the game turns into a much more ganking one then I still got what I've paid for :)
But you should get ready to see a ganking-griefing free game too, if you want to avoid disappointement.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
I'm very interested in Crafting/Building myself - Just more into PvP
I plan on crafting/building my city up for the first few weeks...
I'm also into ganking, if towns are going to be safezones that's fine with me i don't need to gank helpless crafters.
I'll prob leave most tribe towns alone after prelude, unless of course i have something against the clan itself.. Worthless ganking is fun but if it's going to make the game play change i'd rather have wars with 1 clan and just grief them and hopefully they will fight back.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
Iron Maiden wrote:
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If you read above the only anger i see is from a PvE/crafter raging saying they will quit after getting killed once or twice, that's the only anger i see here.
It's funny because last I've heard it was fairly easy to catch up to someone in PvP.. Think it had to do with how combat mode is the same as any other movements now.
ANY sandbox game makes not much sense without a kind of PvP or way to "influence" other players against their will. This is so, because you have to "risk" something in order to be able to "win".
How tell the difference if there is no risk?
I hope PvP will be good... not absent!
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
If this is the same Kunra from Fallen Earth then my answer is...
Yes going to be a major gankfeft. They actually reward you here for ganking with special items and titles and sometimes brownies. People who play the "ganker" class have several special abilities such as the /grief and /camp commands to make the victims life hell..
You shouldn't play this game.
(Kunra from fallen earth was a whiny baby who did nothing but post ont he forums rando stupid troll threads complaining about the game day in and day out. We would be better off as a community without him here defaming the game and trying to twist everything about the game to meet his personal expectations)
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
I don't think the game will be adapted to any one single poster here. The devs have quite a clear idea about how this game should turn out.
They listen to the community for some things (UI and such) but not for all things.
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pid73 wrote:
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I don't think the game will be adapted to any one single poster here. The devs have quite a clear idea about how this game should turn out.
They listen to the community for some things (UI and such) but not for all things.
Yup they listen to the community, just look at combat mode :)
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
In UO (years ago) PvP on a crafter/harvester was fun. As a miner I could protect myself with invis, then dart past him when he ran past. Even if he ganked me all he got was a pick and raw ore - I mined in my underwear.
As a crafter/harvester we will adapt.
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Re:I am a Hunter/Gatherer and Crafter type of player
I am a current DF player and have been playing it from release as a crafter/Gatherer. The last seven months of that has been solo. I am attracted to Xsyon because of the combination of crafting and world PvP. Simply because pvp/crafting games tend to have decay on items.
There is no point playing as a crafter if I make someone some armor and it never breaks or can't be stolen. World pvp games in this context provides me with repeat custom. I'm also ok with getting my ass handed to me.
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Iron Maiden wrote:
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Please tell me this is some sort of giant troll.
My thoughts exactly.