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The spawn areas need to be made safe zones or the players will be griefed seconds after they log in.
Pk'ing players as they spawn in is NOT playing the game, It is NOT testing for bugs, IT IS GRIEFING and such players should be banned for it. What's more pk'ing players as they spawn in to get tools and equipment is also cheating. Not everyone creates char's optimized to fast and fight making it impossible to get away.
The spawn areas are set to be safe. Is this not working?
Xsyon, this (apparently) is not working. I was attacked (though I got away) immediately upon logging on with a new character. Several others have complained about being killed upon login.
Stop being a carebare..man this game has loads of them... spawn and run..its not that hard
Cheating is re doing your char and putting them in a box so you can keep it..killing people in a MMO isnt.. fool
Throwing words like cheating around for everything you don't like really makes them meaningless.
Not saying camping the spawn is nice or that I do it, but this is ridiculous.
Logged in for the very first time and got killed by a pair of players within seconds :(.
Doesn't seem to be working...
I agree..
Stupid OP
If the devs prefer people to keep making chars for tools or have people die for them?
I think the dying option is legal
You're safe so long as you do not move immediately after have log'd in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsyon
So IMO; Yes it's working as intended.
It sucks to be killed when you first log in but to say its cheating is laughable.
NO i have STOOD still after spawning and had a friend kill me and i remember lol on vent telling him he cant hurt me right as i fell over DEAD. spawns have NO buffer of safety as posted on the 16 of Feb Xsyon Updates! and with the game still not live/head-start what ever and asshats ganking newbs for tools; what do u do for that? reroll is all u can do. hopefully u dont need/want the recipes u have on that char and have to keep re-rolling to get another good set to start with.
and cheating is normaly defined as taking the short road or quick path. make ur own char and run the tools back and forth urself u lazy shit. not everyone has the fortitude of will to keep re-rolling till they get what they want on recipes AND not have someone take their tools from them.
BTW i have done that before wipes and i QUICKLY realized that i was above and beyond griefing and now i dont take tools at all. so yes i play both roads the TRUE pvper and the PVEer.
crap like this makes me want to say BOP starter tools so u ONLY have what u select till others can craft more. they will wear out over time anyway and the new tools wont be BOP but seeing so many asshats i think that is about the only fix for this shit.
I'm not sure cheating is the right word; however, exploiting does seem to fit. New characters are supposed to be protected as per patch notes, this is not working properly, people are exploiting a bug by attacking those that are supposed to be immune to pk. I know the way the OP put it wasn't elegant, but people who are killing freshly spawned characters are in the wrong.
Being a carebear is a pvper who waits for the easiest kill possible, the one where people have just logged in and most the time are not even ready at the keyboard........these type of players should go to some other carebear pvp game. Lets make Xyson for just real pvpers :)
i once got killed at the spawn about a minute after i spawned... then i learned hey when i remake a character get the hell outa dodge quick, have remade about 20 times since then and have not been caught since.... games and common sense are hard...
I have only been killed once in my whoe Xyson experience and that was nowhere near a spawn point. so i agree it's easy to get away. Doesnt alter the fact that we have cowardly carebear pvpers in the game though. you want a real challenge pvpers come look for me out in the wilds...ill gladly fight you and will be at my pc while your doing it...that is if you have the balls! dont expect you do to be honest :) you probably prefer to camp the spawn points hoping to find an unsuspecting easy kill haha! reminds me of Darkfall newbie areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by santoclawz
this is not targeted at the real pvpers by the way. i know they prefer the challenge of a good fight.
This .Quote:
Originally Posted by Fahadius
Protection IS supposed to be at the spawn areas . The fact that it isn't working properly doesn't mean anyone has the right to camp it and kill those just spawning in , as that is just basically greifing / exploiting a bug imo .
Clearly it's the fault of the ones logging in, for not logging in with an army ready to protect them the second they're in game! :p
Still not working.
i agree there are no spawn protect i got pk after log for the first time.
Harlequins acting tuff on the forums again, i remember them doing the same before darkfalls launch but failed, life really is an endless cycle. :cool:
Not acting tough..we are a pvp clan that cant stand carebare whiney children like you.
Exploiting game mechanics be it bugs or a lack of code/rule to inforce responsible play is cheating. That is what cheating is. Exploiting bugs, faults or loopholes for personal gain or pleasure.
has anyone tried to place a totem in a starter area now?
Obviously any game mechanic, where a player who pays $40, knows noone and logs in for the first time and is killed in the first 30 secs and loses his stuff, is a gamebreaker and will ruin this game and it's rep right away. It would be nice to have a healthy population of people joining this game and not just a cesspool of lowest common denominator "PKers" who like to decide their version of fun is ruining it for others.
Fine, have your little safe haven, you're dead anyways.
if natural selection wouldnt have been disabled we wouldnt have to deal with this thread.
what stops people from running away and trying to survive?
are you just standing still and letting the meanie slaughter you? :( :( :(
wtf
Pure PvP chars will have 90 streng, 90 agility, 90 forditude. they're faster and stronger as an normal Craft char, its easy to hunt them.Quote:
what stops people from running away and trying to survive?
Solution: How about a small timer of protection when you jump in for the first time. Something like 15m-30m enough for them to get oriented and moving. Maybe add some tips at the really long load time. IE "Run like hell" "Careful of who you trust." "W,A,S,D is movement" "Hold right mouse button to move camera or Q,E on keyboard" Stuff along those lines so newbies can hit the ground running and give them a starting chance.
Also while they are under protection they can't trade, store in baskets, ect. Your protection can't be dropped till the time runs out which would stop most people from remaking characters since they would have to wait awhile.
As Fiku said , characters made for hunting are faster than someone created for crafting .Quote:
Originally Posted by esudar
Not only that , some people don't have " fast " computers and quite often end up with their character stood ingame , while other things are still loading , this could result in them getting control of a nearly dead character . [not had it happen to myself , but its a possibility ].
But all this is neither here nor there , the game owner and designer has specifically said that " Starter " points would and SHOULD have a safe zone on them . This was put there not just to stop pk griefing , but also the idiots that were placing totems and terraforming the area to block characters leaving the starter area .
These so called " Harcore PvPers "( such a laughable term , as they would all run a mile at perma death ) , need to realise why 99.9% of games out there are geared more for PvE with PvP being optional . It quite simple really , us " Carebears " generate WAY more subscription fees than PvPers do. One of the oldest games still running realised that quite early on ..... UO .
While plenty of people enjoy PvP ,myself included , they do not enjoy pk griefing , which is basically what is happening at the starter areas atm .
Forditude... Not everyone has it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiku
lmao, seriously though. complaining about being killed no matter the circumstance is lame. Complain about the bug. The part of the game that is not working, or is being exploited. It's the difference between being a good beta tester and being the whiny brat no one ever invited over.
Oh, PS: Stop with the "PvP brings in more subs!" or "PvE brings in more subs". If you don't have a healthy balance of both your games not gonna last.
According to your definition, rerolling is cheating too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nephilim
Hopefully your stick around in this game so you can come and steal my tools. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer
not it was not working a couple wipes ago, as i was killed myself in the spawn areas haven't tested it recently as am just waiting for final wipe myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsyon
you probably bought the wrong game then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer
yes the whiney children are really horrible :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bruisie159
well i dont even have to comment
That's sig worthy coming from you Vodas! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by esudar
The taste of your salty tears is nourishment to the soul of griefers everywhere. Why indulge them with the forum rants they so crave????? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by vorg
I have two accounts and two pcs side by side. I know for a fact that a character that is logging in appears in game a few seconds before that player even has the game world rendered.
Not too much of a challenge killing a character that that is not even fully logged in.
how is FIXING the situation of being raped cheating? i didnt have a random chance to NOT start with tools. its not like a DnD char were i dont like my roll and reroll! this is more under having made the perfect char u get in game and the dungeon master throws me into a pit or puts some janky curse on me. nothing u can do about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SotekOne
