Wanted - Diplomacy

Please implement an alliance system as soon as possible. Having played for the past few days, I believe this needs to be of high priority (minus lag obviously). Its hard to develop alliances which I believe to be an important part of rebuilding out apocalypic society. Just using sight with everyone with black names isn't very efficient method IMO. You have to get to close and then remember whether that name is an alliance member just doesn't make sense to me. Whats everyones thoughts?

Thread suggestions:

Suggestion 1 - Tribal Colors
Suggestion 2 - Clan tags
Suggestion 3 - Guild Banners

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Originally Posted by mgilbrtsn

Please implement an alliance system as soon as possible. Having played for the past few days, I believe this needs to be of high priority (minus lag obviously). Its hard to develop alliances which I believe to be an important part of rebuilding out apocalypic society. Just using sight with everyone with black names isn't very efficient method IMO. You have to get to close and then remember whether that name is an alliance member just doesn't make sense to me. Whats everyones thoughts?

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Friendly fire is a part of any conflict. I personally beleive the best thing to do is not go in guns blazing but be aware of your surroundings and communicate first. IF you are out to kill everything that moves without thinking about it first you are sure to create isues but those who approach any interaction with another player with a bit of caution can soon sort out the situation. That is just my opinion though.

Wanted: Tribes to have to wear tribe colors to identify each other more easily. That way, I can see who is coming the same way you can.

This could lead to much fun confusion. For example, my neighbors, the Happy Carebear Clan (not really) wear orange and blue. So I see someone running up wearing orange and blue, and I stupidly let down my guard. *Smack!* Oh no, it's the PKer I escaped from yesterday. Instead of trying to stealth up this time, he's gotten smarter and tried a different form of camoflage. And it worked.

Example number #2: You see someone wearing your tribe's colors approaching, and you let down your guard. *Smack!* I've just avenged a few of the trees your tribe cut down around my homestead last night.

The reason military uniforms probably exist is because battle is confusing, and uniform colors was a way to tell the people you're supposed to axe apart from the people you're not supposed to axe.

Really hope having clan Tags is at least in the top 10 of the list of improvements. Right along with name color change.

I agree 100%. Though fratricide is a real thing, at least have some way of communitcating between friendly tribes. It is unfeasable to make special whistles or yelps as code for friendlies so lets at least have the capability of letting our aliegences know we are passing through or hunting someone near by without letting 6 zones know about it.

We need Guil banners and symbols/colors on the gear

Clearly readable Clan/Tribe/Guild tags are the basic fundamental tools needed in any territorial, conquest game that involves war, and fighting of any kind.. This should have been implemented from the get go, and is way past due..

Its not hard to code nor hard to patch out... Please implement this fast!! Otherwise I foresee there will be a lot of chaos in the future...

Bad idea, it just makes it easier for clans that nutcup with other clans with the goal of zerging everyone to have it easier. Big alliances should be hard to manage, not the other way round.

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Originally Posted by Vandali

Bad idea, it just makes it easier for clans that nutcup with other clans with the goal of zerging everyone to have it easier. Big alliances should be hard to manage, not the other way round.

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my though wasn't actually because I want to Zerg anyone. It has more to do with not killing your friends by accident, and forming defencive pacts against others. Don't get me wrong, we are a pvp clan and plan to make war. However, many in our alliance are pure crafting tribes, dual tribes, and any combination you can think of.

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Originally Posted by mgilbrtsn

Thread suggestions:

Suggestion 1 - Tribal Colors
Suggestion 2 - Clan tags
Suggestion 3 - Guild Banners

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1) No. Coloring items is nice, the rest should be up to you.
2) NO. Go back to Unreal Tournament?
3) Sounds nice, although I don't really know what that's supposed to do.

High priority, this is not.
Everything that can be done by the players themselves, should be done by the players themselves.
No need for the developers to step in more than necessary.

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Originally Posted by Asmos

Really hope having clan Tags is at least in the top 10 of the list of improvements. Right along with name color change.

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Originally Posted by zeph

Clearly readable Clan/Tribe/Guild tags are the basic fundamental tools needed in any territorial, conquest game that involves war, and fighting of any kind.. This should have been implemented from the get go, and is way past due..

Its not hard to code nor hard to patch out... Please implement this fast!! Otherwise I foresee there will be a lot of chaos in the future...

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I really hope this is not, you dont have some big sign over your head that says what country you live in. your lucky you can see some ones name when you get close.

there is no reason to have this sorta intel should be there for you to see, maybe we should make it so you can see name tags from half a zone away.

Guild colors on Gear, via the crafts, Guild symbol on gear via crafting, NO GUILD TAGS. NO EASY TO SEE NAMES you should see the play and kill them first before you see there name imho.

infact there should be any names visible.

carebears need to grow some.

"Otherwise I foresee there will be a lot of chaos in the future" EXACTLY this isn't a carebear theme park.

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Originally Posted by Vandali

Bad idea, it just makes it easier for clans that nutcup with other clans with the goal of zerging everyone to have it easier. Big alliances should be hard to manage, not the other way round.

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THIS THIS THIS

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Originally Posted by mgilbrtsn

my though wasn't actually because I want to Zerg anyone. It has more to do with not killing your friends by accident

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... sounds like you want to zerg someone.

Guild uniforms and banners are a good idea. Also using emote passcodes would help.

I like the way it is right now. I do not want colors to differentiate. I would like to have a slightly easier to see name color other than black. Tribal colors are the way to go. Tribes already pick from two colors at their totem, make those colors show in tasteful ways on clothing worn.

This game is unique, lets keep it that way by not introducing mechanics all the other games have just because you are used to them.

You say you want diplomacy, then get out there and say hi to your neighbors. That's the staple of diplomacy.

id be happy with just dyes...freedom to do whatever with your tags.

Alliances are a horrible idea to me. If you dont have enough ppl in your tribe to do what you want then get more of your own ppl. Alliances lead to the "Zerg Superpower". I feel it ruins most MMO's, I fought in the great war in eve for 3 years, it ruins the game for anyone trying to play it their own style and making a name for themselves. And I dont feel that NOT having alliances ruins the game for anyone, all it does is protect the large tribes that are scared of the slightly larger tribe next door by going "blue" to them (blue = allied/freindly for those that dont know) If you want to have a pact or agreement now verbally with another alliance more power to you, but do not put it into the game mechanics.

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Regardless if you want it or not, a tribe alliance/enemy system is planned. Any game with clans, guilds, tribes needs a guild level friend/foe system, it enables you to not only set other guilds/tribes as friends, but also as enemies, which then allows you to declare war. Jookie has stated in the past that all of this is planned for during Prelude.

Most games that have these systems, also have a kind of communication and identification system to compliment it. This is typically done with alliance chats, guild tags, and colour coded names above heads. This system is used the most, because it works, and it is a good system. Whats wrong with making an enemy and his name showing up red? Or making an ally and his name being green, and your guild mates names being yellow? Its a simple system that should definitely be implemented, for many many reasons. Saying go back to some other game is pathetic and immature, and is not an argument for or against the topic at hand. If you really dont want this system, you need to list some real reasons why this would be a negative rather than a positive, cos as far as I see it, the positives far outweigh the negatives. Its fine to have a game that has different mechanics to most games, but not implementing something like this would be going against the grain a little too much in my books.

This game offers the ability to create some unique uniforms, which would be far more effective in general rather than "Oh green tag".
Keeping it as it currently is will allow the small group/solo player to still be effective against a larger force by masquerading as the enemy in their uniform. One classic example would be from "The good, the bad, the ugly" where they dress in rebel uniforms, but still get found out.
As for what Jooki has said in the past, he's very flexible on what he implements and usually listens to both sides of the argument when it becomes an issue, and i think this will be an issue as the only ones that will benefit from it are clans that want to play the numbers game.

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Originally Posted by maelwydd

Friendly fire is a part of any conflict. I personally beleive the best thing to do is not go in guns blazing but be aware of your surroundings and communicate first. IF you are out to kill everything that moves without thinking about it first you are sure to create isues but those who approach any interaction with another player with a bit of caution can soon sort out the situation. That is just my opinion though.

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Though in real conflicts each side often has uniforms to help tell each other apart. The wide varieties of armor in this game does allow for this somewhat but some form of dye system would be nice too, since it adds to how unique your armor is. While in a battle if everyone on your side is wearing a full tahoe cowboy outfit with heyburn shirt and pants underneath and the enemy is wearing a jumble of different armors or a different armor set it will reduce freindly fire, if everyone in your clan is wearing bright red tahoe outfits and the enemy is wearing, forest green, cobalt blue, or a jumble of colors, friendly fire will only be a big issue if you are swinging wildly.

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Originally Posted by mgilbrtsn

Please implement an alliance system as soon as possible. Having played for the past few days, I believe this needs to be of high priority (minus lag obviously). Its hard to develop alliances which I believe to be an important part of rebuilding out apocalypic society. Just using sight with everyone with black names isn't very efficient method IMO. You have to get to close and then remember whether that name is an alliance member just doesn't make sense to me. Whats everyones thoughts?

Thread suggestions:

Suggestion 1 - Tribal Colors
Suggestion 2 - Clan tags
Suggestion 3 - Guild Banners

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NO way !

This idea would turn the game into an artificial PvP fest - coloured tags? Man what are you thinking of?