We need to be able to move the totem without disbanding the tribe.
You can't terraform under the totem, so the first place you put it down will most likely not be where you want it.
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We need to be able to move the totem without disbanding the tribe.
You can't terraform under the totem, so the first place you put it down will most likely not be where you want it.
He has a good point there... it does get rather annoying to have to drop your totem, then terraform the area that you actually want the totem to be, then disband to unspawn the totem, so you can place it where you wanted it, all along... *whew*
Of course, if there was a way to move your totem around, I could see it as being exploitable, seeing as how that could be used to just shift your tribal land borders, whenever you felt like it...
Darenkel wrote:
then maybe totems should move up with terraforming if you raise the land, or move down when you lower- is that possible? I guess that means you would be able to terraform right on top of a totem where now you can't get close enough.Quote:
Of course, if there was a way to move your totem around, I could see it as being exploitable, seeing as how that could be used to just shift your tribal land borders, whenever you felt like it...
Hmm, I agree a way of moving the totem would be nice. It could cost a bundle of ressources perhaps?
I would suggest it can only be moved in the first 30 days or something. You dont want tribes being able to alter their borders after 6mths, especially if two tribes that are fairly close to each other have grown even closer to together in size, it would be a mess if totems could be moved in that circumstance.
Kinslayer wrote:
the point is that right now you put your totem down and then you can't terraform around it. So, to get around it you have to place your totem, then terraform a spot for it- then disband your tribe, and then start another tribe, get everyone back in it then set the totem on the terraformed spot.Quote:
I would suggest it can only be moved in the first 30 days or something. You dont want tribes being able to alter their borders after 6mths, especially if two tribes that are fairly close to each other have grown even closer to together in size, it would be a mess if totems could be moved in that circumstance.
One possible solutions is, once totem is placed, that becomes the center of you land. Have a move totem command that would allow moving of the totem object, but the actual center of your land remains pegged at original spot. Not sure how feasable this is though.
Or simply allow to terraform around totem ;) :P
Oooh Deacon yours was nice =).
Maybe the totem then moves back to the original position after a day?.
Deacon wrote:
this is perfect!Quote:
One possible solutions is, once totem is placed, that becomes the center of you land. Have a move totem command that would allow moving of the totem object, but the actual center of your land remains pegged at original spot. Not sure how feasable this is though.
I thought of another possible solution.
You would be able to set the base of the totem by the elevation, so in order to keep from having floating poles the pole length would compensate based on the height. The allowable height would be based on the height of the ground.
You would neeed to be able to terraform under neath and around the pole to make this work.
KeithStone wrote:
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I thought of another possible solution.
You would be able to set the base of the totem by the elevation, so in order to keep from having floating poles the pole length would compensate based on the height. The allowable height would be based on the height of the ground.
You would neeed to be able to terraform under neath and around the pole to make this work.
Yeah, the easiest solution would be allowing terraforming around and under totem...but peg the totem base to elevation of ground it is on.
Maybe.... you could just allow the tribe leader to move the totem like you would a construction plan so you can terraform where it is to be placed. During this move the tribal land would not move and the totem would not be accessible until you clicked the "Plant" button. (like the build button) After planting the totem the tribe borders would adjust accordingly and the Totem would be flagged as immovable for a period of maybe 30days. other restrictions could be added to prevent exploit such as:
Totems can not be move while non tribe members are within the tribal borders.
Totems can not be planted while non tribe members are within the projected tribal area.
Totems that are not Planted within a time frame of maybe 4 hours from its move would auto disband the tribe.
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Maybe if we had these choices:
Leader can shift the totem, no more than once a week (or some other time period) up to 10 meters. Shift would work like Architecture's ghost object shift.
If a tribe decides to move to a new location, either allow this twice per tribe or have a staff member unlock the remove totem command so they can take down the totem without disbanding the tribe. Otherwise the tribe could disband and reform at the new location, just as it is now.
I think it should just be made simple, without all of that involvement coming into play. How about the leader can pick it up and move it, period. It's not like it's going to break the game, or move your area of influence for that matter.
Gamefreak wrote:
The only problem with that is the ability to exploit it during a siege. If the leader can just pack up the totem whenever he wants and drop it where ever. He could easily just pick up the totem and run off to prevent its capture.Quote:
I think it should just be made simple, without all of that involvement coming into play. How about the leader can pick it up and move it, period. It's not like it's going to break the game, or move your area of influence for that matter.
Another exploit would be the leader picking up the totem and moving tribe next to another tribe to be used as a siege camp.(If any bonuses are given to players in their own tribal territory.)
once a seige is placed you wouldn't be able to move it- that's a simple fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybalt
I dont think siege in Xsyon will be like darkfall...there isn't a mechanic of seige...it's just people attacking I think.
The problem with moving totem, is the circumference of tribe influence. There will hopefully be many tribes at launch, and just moving the totem can run into difficulties with boundaries. What would become of structures that were built by the tribe, but because totem was moved, is no longer in the sphere of infuence?
I can't remember an official post saying that there will be siege mechanics or that tribal territory or totems can be captured.
If you think about it what do you do if you happen to capture another tribe's territory/totem? Abandon your previous settlement?
I don't think in Xsyon there will be massive or even small scale sieges as there are in some other MMOs.
I believe we are all under the assumption that we will be tasked in defending our totem. If this is not implemented in game, there is no need for walls. Which will free up a lot of my time. If Tribes are going to remain much as they are now. That puts a whole new spin on my approch to this game. Maybe Jookie can clear some of this up for us?
I asked this exact question (can tribes destroy another tribes totem) and is now sitting on the FAQ page, so I assume the next time jooky updates that page it will get answered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tybalt