Skill Decay
issueid=1940 04-08-2014 06:31 PM
DarkShado
Skill Decay
Skill Decay

Ok now this is just silly this skill decay in Xsyon you really need to do away with
the whole skill decay thing.

It is stupid that a player can only lock two skills and then the rest of the skills
go down and then later on you have to relearn say tool crafting again because you
can't lock it because you have two other skills locked.

There is absolutely no basis for this a person is not going to forget a basic skill
like how to make a fire or another crafting skill once they have learned it.

The skill is going to stay with them for life and they are not going to forget it.
There is absolutely no need for any kind of a skill decay.

I really think you need to remove the whole skill decay thing from the game
completely.

If anything I would like to see a teaching system put in place where players can
teach each other skills in the game. This is a system which I saw when I used to
play Star Wars Galaxies Pre Combat Update (SWG-CU) where they have a system
where people can teach each other skills. Because lets face it right now the way
the schemes for stuff like architecture is rare and hard to get and all around I believe
that this system would be a more realistic system over all. Where you can find the
Schemes or learn the skill from another player that already has it providing you have
the skill level needed in that skill.

This game is supposed to be a "sand box" style game we should not be penalized
for raising one skill by another one going down we should be allowed to raise our
skills as we need them and not be penalized for it.
Issue Details
Issue Number 1940
Issue Type Feature
Project Suggestions
Category Unknown
Status Rejected
Priority 3
Suggested Version Unknown
Implemented Version (none)
Votes for this feature 1
Votes against this feature 2
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04-09-2014 05:21 PM
Xsyon Citizen
I couldn't disagree more.

If you don't keep using something even in real life, you lose touch with it. You do start to forget a lot about it, people say it all the time "I've not done this in a while I'm rusty" etc.

Why would you remove skill decay from the game? What's the reasoning? The only reason I can see is because it takes to much time to skill up, however, it's not hard to get a skill to 100. I can do it in a day. You can have a good amount of skills at 100 and not even feel ANY decay in skill not even 1 point (15 to be exact).

Plus having skill decay if you knew how the system worked is a bonus to training stats much faster and even recipes.

What does sandbox have to do with no skill decay? You can still learn everything, the point is there are choices you can make, that's the sandbox you are not forced into doing one thing or another. You can even have ALL the skills at 100 if you want, just takes more work due to decay.

04-09-2014 07:39 PM
Banned
MrDDT stop trolling all my threads everyone get out of here and NEVER post again in any
of my threads again!

People are NOT GOING TO forget their skills entirely and I am tired of getting tool crafting to like 40 and then losing
it again to like 20 and then getting a new item I can craft and have to get it all the way back up to 60 again.

This has to be one of the MOST hated features of ANY MMO and it has NEVER worked Once again MrDDT you are
very wrong you have no idea what you are talking about. the Skill Decay system is HORRIBLE and needs to be removed.

this is a SAND BOX game you should be able to level your skills and keep them as is you are being limited to
learning your skills only a certain way and that isn't the sandbox style.

Again this skill decay needs to go it is a HORRIBLE system that doesn't work I would rather see the
teaching system I was talking about in my 1st post implemented rather than this skill decay crap.

04-09-2014 10:48 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Works in many games.

Maybe it's the most hated by you, but others like the fact that you have to work at skills and the ones you use are the ones you keep not just have all skills at 100 all the time.

Also this one a feature that was asked for by many players not just put in at random, it was added AFTER release of the game. You are not limited to learning your skills only in a certain way, there is many ways to train the skill, don't forget you can also use green points.

I understand you want it easier, you want someone to walk up to you and give you everything you want so you don't have to train any skill. That doesnt do well for most games, putting a little time into to understand how a game works, how a skill works is what most people want. Not something that is easy to get, things that are that easy people tend to just get bored and quit. I mean why have skills at all? Just let everyone have everything then out of the gate?

04-10-2014 06:03 AM
Visitor
Well, I reply to this with YES and NO..

YES
because this skill decay is a little odd.. of course you wouldn't forget how to do things even in real life.. you might just get rusty..

On my opinion, there should be a different system for skills and the luck and quality for making it.

For example.. you have 60 basketry and can make a Gold Basket... after a while your basketry level gone down to 30.. now what will happen is that you won't forget how to make the Gold Basket, but instead, your chance of making it and the quality will go down.

NO
because this system has a point.. skills really go down, but not as far and fast as this.. it could take years to forget something. I would happy to have this system with a few fixes and things. and also, after you forgot something you have learned, after a few review, you should and would learn it a little faster than learning it first time.

REFERENCE:
My own Experience;
I didn't forget how to use a fishing rod even after not fishing for 2 years (in real life),
I never forget how to drive a car even after a few months,
I never forget how to cook (maybe the taste changes),
and that's that..

04-10-2014 12:00 PM
Banned
The whole Skill decay system is a HORRIBLE system and needs to be removed!

04-10-2014 02:23 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by DarkShado
The whole Skill decay system is a HORRIBLE system and needs to be removed!
That' doesn't give reasons why. Read up on my post you can see how I list reasons why and how decay does work in real life and how they help the game.

04-11-2014 01:22 AM
Visitor
Nope, it just need to be altered

04-11-2014 01:16 PM
Xsyon Citizen
This skill decay system has several different points, I will state few for now, it is good for people who have multiple accounts, it is made to grind for HP, instead of leveling green points for HP, this skill decay broke trading even more...... I can state more.

04-12-2014 02:04 PM
Xsyon Citizen
You are not stating how or why. You are are just stating something like "Skill decay works great" or "skill decay sucks" but there is no reasons why, or how to fix it.

Skill decay has nothing to do with HP grind, not sure where you getting that info from. HP grind is from using skills, and increasing your stats/skills.

How did skill decay break trading even more?
Why is it good for people with multiple accounts? I can sorta see this, but if 1 toon can do ALL skills at 100. How is skill decay good for people with 2+ accounts? Now you might have a point if you were to say stat system was good for people with more than 1 account, but I don't see why skill system is.

04-13-2014 05:35 AM
Xsyon Citizen
I stated how to fix this skill decay, if you playin "?" then it is not my problem.
To gaind hp, you first lower skills which gain hp then because skill is low you get green points faster and also hp faster.

04-13-2014 06:44 AM
Xsyon Citizen
You have no idea what your talking about. Post after post you show it. You do not gain HP from having your skills lower, yes you can gain green points faster that way but not HP. Actually you gain more hp from having a skill higher because the skill its self will give you hp. Fort grind has nothing to do with low skills it just gets slower as you get a higher amount of fort. I really think you just like to cause problems, if people look at your collection of posts they can see you have done nothing but complain and Ignore what people have played for years have told you.

04-13-2014 08:44 AM
Xsyon Citizen
I test it it my self, at higher skill level you gain HP slower then at lower level skill.
And I am not here to cause trouble, game supposed to be fun to play not grindish, and that's how I would like it to be.
Look at landmark, they don't limit on what you do, they even open more abilities to give you more freedom to do what you want.

04-13-2014 10:47 AM
Xsyon Citizen
And good luck with your skill decay system, maybe after you loose many more players because of it, you will agree with me, but it might be too late to change anything.

04-13-2014 11:31 AM
Xsyon Citizen
I would wish you good luck as well, but i wouldnt really mean it.

04-13-2014 12:09 PM
Xsyon Citizen
How are you gaining HP? Lowering your skills as Battleforce does not give you more HP, really it lowers your HP.

Now if you are talking about stat gain at lower skill levels yes. But again what does that have to do with the skill grind?

12-03-2014 07:46 AM
Visitor
This game suffers from overthink. It requires the player to do too many things to accomplish tasks that should be just a mouse click or two. Skills should not degrade very fast or much at all if any, ESPECIALLY in a game. it is hard enough keeping track of the things you want to do and doing them without too many things you SHOULDN'T have to. This game is practically unplayable, which is a shame, because it has everything I want in a game (early impression). Just ASSUMING everyone likes a feature because you designed it that way and YOU want it to be that way has been the death of many games.

12-05-2014 01:09 AM
Xsyon Citizen
I'm a new player and I love it just the way it is. Sure some tweaks can be made but the overall system is awesome. Truly gives versatility to player builds.