Before you patch baskets to public.
issueid=1507 02-24-2012 12:19 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Before you patch baskets to public.

Please implement metal boxes to place at totems and one to carry.
Metal box to be able to load on carts and place on the ground, these metal boxes should hold up to 30 baskets, and could be locked and set permissions, even outside of tribe areas.
Metal box smaller, one you could carry with you, these boxes should have up to 60 items to place and should be locked and set permissions, even out side of tribe areas, this would be a personal vault, to be able to carry items, either to trade or carry anywhere around.
So thing would be protected at all times.
All baskets should be accessible to public even in tribe areas, since they're all made out of grass.
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Issue Number 1507
Issue Type Feature
Project Suggestions
Category Unknown
Status Rejected
Priority 1 - Highest
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Votes for this feature 1
Votes against this feature 14
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02-24-2012 12:48 PM
Xsyon Citizen
WOW 30 baskets? Thats a lot, your cart cant even carry 30 baskets.

I do like the idea of a metal box, with locks on it. I think metal/stone/wood etc boxes is a good idea. Not sure about some of the other stuff you saying.

I think maybe adding locks (real lots not dev permissions) where it takes a key, and can be picked based on skills and other things would be cool.
 

02-24-2012 01:30 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Metal box that you could put on the cart would fill-up all the current slots on the cart and would open as separated container and maybe have around 20 slots, so you won't be placing each box in separate slot in on cart, cart would still have it's storage slots if you don't put box on it, but if you don't put box on it and place items inside the box? all the items would be accessible to loot by public.
Those boxes that have 30 or more slots on your tribal area should also be stacked one on one.
They could even add plastic boxes as well.
 

02-24-2012 01:49 PM
Xsyon Citizen
I dont understand why they would have 30 slots. Doesnt make any sense to me.
I could see less slots like 1 or 2, because they are safe. But surely not more slots than the largest cart in the game.
 

02-24-2012 02:31 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
I dont understand why they would have 30 slots. Doesnt make any sense to me.
I could see less slots like 1 or 2, because they are safe. But surely not more slots than the largest cart in the game.
Right now a cart has 5 10 15 and 20 slots for baskets or bundles I believe, if you could place a box corresponding to a cart, and box would hold same as a cart but would be much safer to transfer the goods, because box would be locked.
Lets say you have a cart that have 5 slots, you could only place 5 slot metal box with the same 5 slots "to place baskets and bundles" but the box would be locked from public to have an easy access to it, I said easy because locks could be picked, but not so easily, and after one or two tries if not successfully picked then lock sets to broken state and only owner could open it.
Same way if you use your pickup to transfer something, it would make a difference if you would place items on the pickup without ability to lock your things, but it would make a difference if you put items inside box and lock that box then no one could have an easy access to your things anymore.
Only if it stay abandoned then someone could pick a lock and steel your goods.
 

02-24-2012 03:12 PM
Xsyon Citizen
I can sorta understand that. 5 slot cart = 5 slot box and it would take up all the slots in the box.

I think doing that should also make the weight higher.

Wurm online had a system like this, that blacksmiths would make the locks based on the QL of the lock was how hard it was to pick. Lock-picking skill was hard to level, and required mats (tools) to do it. Higher QL picks were needed to pock higher QL locks. Breaking a high QL pick was many times not even worth the items inside the box itself.

I think its a great system, and I would love for them to do something like what wurm online did.

I dont see why it needs to go BEFORE public bins outside tribe areas. If you want something safe you have tribe areas and founders isle for that. Its a LOT of safety in the game for it.
 

02-24-2012 03:45 PM
Xsyon Citizen
We've had enough issues with nested containers just trying to get carts and structure storage. Recursive inventory functions tend to eat performance (looking up tables in tables in tables) when the system we have is fine, just needing refinements to the UI.
 

02-24-2012 03:52 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
I can sorta understand that. 5 slot cart = 5 slot box and it would take up all the slots in the box.

I think doing that should also make the weight higher.

The weight should also depend on materials one use to create box, titanium is strongest and lightest resource but is also harder to find and refine it in to a material, and should greatly reduce weight.
 

02-24-2012 04:30 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Weight of the item type of metal would be a great idea. Lets put that on all items haha.
 

02-24-2012 05:53 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
Weight of the item type of metal would be a great idea. Lets put that on all items haha.
That would take some time LOL

Lets postpone public baskets and concentrate more on combat, shell we? since combat is more important than baskets issue.
 

02-24-2012 06:16 PM
Xsyon Citizen
You dont really state any reason why to postpone it. Other than "I would like it"

On topic of the metal boxes, I think its a great idea and should be added to the long list of stuff. I wouldnt rank it high on the list though.
Also I think balancing needs to be worked out. Having 30 slots for baskets of something you carry around in a cart, isnt going to cut it for me.
 

02-24-2012 08:01 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
You dont really state any reason why to postpone it. Other than "I would like it"

On topic of the metal boxes, I think its a great idea and should be added to the long list of stuff. I wouldnt rank it high on the list though.
Also I think balancing needs to be worked out. Having 30 slots for baskets of something you carry around in a cart, isnt going to cut it for me.
You already have what, twenty slots in a cart? 30 should be OK for master carts which may also be made from light and strong materials that are hard to craft.
 

02-24-2012 08:40 PM
Xsyon Citizen
So you think a metal box that you carry IN a cart, should hold more than the cart itself?
 

02-28-2012 03:05 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
So you think a metal box that you carry IN a cart, should hold more than the cart itself?
No: should be same as the carts storage.
 

02-28-2012 04:48 PM
Xsyon Citizen
There are no carts that hold 30 slots of baskets.

Also it shouldnt be the same amount it should be less. Putting an item in something else should mean it holds less than the item your putting it into.
 

02-28-2012 06:58 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
There are no carts that hold 30 slots of baskets.

Also it shouldnt be the same amount it should be less. Putting an item in something else should mean it holds less than the item your putting it into.

I love to talk to you, can be implemented, nothing is impossible, they can make one with 30 slots.
 

02-28-2012 08:45 PM
Xsyon Citizen
Well if they had a 30 slot cart, I could see this taking up like 15 slots, and holding like 10 slots or something. But doesnt make sense to have 30 slots and take up 30 slots in a cart. Try fitting a 1Liter object in another 1Liter object. It doesnt work well.
 

02-29-2012 02:08 AM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
Well if they had a 30 slot cart, I could see this taking up like 15 slots, and holding like 10 slots or something. But doesnt make sense to have 30 slots and take up 30 slots in a cart. Try fitting a 1Liter object in another 1Liter object. It doesnt work well.
That's depend on what type of cart you you would place an object, in this case a box.
For example:
You can place on 5 slot cart a thirty slot box when you make that cart a flatbed, the box would be wider then a cart, but you can place it and secure it...
 

02-29-2012 02:19 AM
Xsyon Citizen
Then wouldnt the cart hold more than 5 slots?

Try fitting a 1Liter object in another 1Liter object. It doesn't work well.
 

02-29-2012 03:56 AM
Xsyon Citizen
Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT
Then wouldnt the cart hold more than 5 slots?

Try fitting a 1Liter object in another 1Liter object. It doesn't work well.
It's on the object not in, don't twist meaning around. I am talking placing on the cart not in the cart.
 

02-29-2012 04:17 AM
Xsyon Citizen
Then dont you think the cart would have to hold more than the slots of the box? I mean just think about it.
It would have to carry at least as many logs as you can put in the box and more.
 

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