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    Needed Newbie Tweak

    There is a gap, between starting the game and actually being able to play the game. I just joined today and I spent a good 3 or 4 hours Scavenging and rolling 3 different characters to get a starter character that I could work with.

    Alas, I never did. I almost came to the point where I was about to quit and give up on the game forever. If it wasn't for a very friendly player (Dakota) who happened to be close by when my frustration finally hit Local Chat, I wouldn't be here right now. The game would be uninstalled and I would never return.

    The problem is, that as a new player you are stuck. No matter what skills you chose, you're stuck in an endless grind to find certain things before you can actually have fun. I was in dire need of an Old Saw Blade. I couldn't make anything useful or do anything but craft the same thing over and over for no reason, w/o the Saw Blade.... that I couldn't find.

    The tweak I am proposing, as a new player, is to give new players all the tools they need to start having fun immediately. I'm not asking for anything more than a proper set of tools that would allow the player to craft better tools, or craft other things that would allow them to advance in a proper fashion. As a tool maker, I couldn't make my tools because I couldn't make the handle to make the saw without a saw and I couldn't find a saw blade to make a bone saw, once I finally got to that point. Which is where my frustration came to a peak.

    Every new player should start out with a basic set of tools, that will allow them to eventually get to every tool in the game. Without this, it's just simply not fun and retention is not going to be all that great. This is a simple fix and not game breaking in any way shape or form. With the way tools seem to be designed, it seems that future releases will allow item degradation and better tools will yield better results on the products.

    This is just a simple fix, that would probably take someone no less than 10 minutes, that would increase retention and decrease refunds. Ever since Dakota has given me those tools, I am well on my way to having fun and enjoying the game. There is no reason I shouldn't have been having fun from the get go.

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    This is planned come release with the fact that ANYONE can teach you basic skills to get you started. Plus tools and other things will be much easier to get once people are playing the game.

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    Skills aren't the problem. The problem is, without someone else you can't do anything. You can make this unless you have that, but you can't make that unless you have something else. A new player should be able to get started, without absolutely needing another player to give him things. The real problem here, is the Saw. I scavenged for hours, without finding anything. I couldn't do anything that was fun, and I couldn't make anything useful. My skills were terrible, which is understandable, but what's not understandable is that it wasn't fun. It's a game, it should be fun from the minute you log in. I am into things like this, everything else so far has been kosher. Ever since I was given the new tools, I've been having fun.

    Edit:
    I tried starting off as Woodcrafter, I think, but it was the same sort of problem.

    Here's the problem.
    You have tools: A, B, and C.

    You have A, but you need B. You can't make B w/o C. But you can't make C w/o B.
    Which is why I eventually opted for the Toolcrafter. Then I think the problem was that I needed a fairly rare part, with a very low Scavenging skill. (I did pick Scavenging as one of my starting Skills)

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    The Game is designed to require a social approach. The new settings that allow you to do everything is new and I am not sure if it will remain this way at launch. But you are supposed to have to rely on others to further your crafting. The way things are now, toolcrafting would be the way to go as far as solo play. I would take Toolcraft, scavenging, and Logging. These skills will give you the basics needed to get started. It will take a very long time to get all the tools and items needed playing by yourself. Or you can join up with a tribe and have them all within a very short time.

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    Xsyon Citizen joexxxz's Avatar
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    This game is designed so everyone will depend on each other. At first,..

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    Xsyon Citizen Xx1327's Avatar
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    this game isn't released, in other words still getting down basic game play, so your whines of quitting out of frustrations will fall on mostly deaf ears.

    as you've obviously discovered there is a whole community online that you have access to. So do some research and ask around if you feel things are too hard.

    My advice: make suggestions of what you would like to see added to the game, find a tribe you're interested in or make one, and test the crap out of the game

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