Question in regards to Wipe and download servers

[Chevron]

/sign

or at least give us a date of the move as your previous update had stated the "server relocation" would happen before the originall 3/1/11 launch and if that was true then what day next week can we expect "Beta" to end?

[orious13]

I think a lot community should follow Skylock's example. He posts a clear message of dissatisfaction with questions and suggestions on how the problem can be fixed all without losing his head.

And what happens?

Feedback happens...

Props to the both of you.

[Straylight]

I presume the download issue is due to people downloading the full ~3.7Gig client. That would be perfect to have as a torrent. Once they have the full game, THEN use the download server when people log in, when file analysis needs to take place, and they only need to download the 10Meg patch files in order to be up to date. That's a 370 times difference in download requirement per person. Just a thought.

Edit: I think the majority of the people on here would know how to obtain files by torrent. Most people would already have a torrent downloader installed. Those that don't could be directed to a fileserver site like Rapidshare or similar site to get the download without having to install a program.

I would dearly love to be able to play sooner rather than later.

[natehamm]

I presume the download issue is due to people downloading the full ~3.7Gig client. That would be perfect to have as a torrent. Once they have the full game, THEN use the download server when people log in, when file analysis needs to take place, and they only need to download the 10Meg patch files in order to be up to date. That's a 370 times difference in download requirement per person. Just a thought.

Edit: I think the majority of the people on here would know how to obtain files by torrent. Most people would already have a torrent downloader installed. Those that don't could be directed to a fileserver site like Rapidshare or similar site to get the download without having to install a program.

I would dearly love to be able to play sooner rather than later.

this is what should be realy done. there like 10 billion sites like rapidshare and megaupload u could use for download till u get the bandwidth fixed. this is my suggestion on how it should be done.

1. direct download moved to a file site temp till seprate download bandwidth can be gotten for it
2. wipe server. dont worry about the tribes the data is corruped from server crash anyway no use wasting manpower and money on something that will cause more problems than gain.
3. have the whoever is doing the servers setup the new servers and have them ready for data transfer before retail.

this way u satisfy your needs to get game up and keep people happy without having to spend to much money and manpower and also dont lose to many people to the ones that do charge backs due to how server started out.
and a question shouldnt the download and update server be on differnt parts anyway?

[Trigun]

u need only to set the launcher for don't download update if it need more than XX mb ...
if is more redirect to other sources (direct download/torrent) they are faster too ^^
and btw if i remember well the wow updater was with a bit torrent client (i don't remember what game was :P)
btw if u wanna do a cool thing u can implement a torrent client inside the launcher and u solved all the problems :P

[Virtus]

if we were go towards a plan like Trigun suggests the problem right now is not enough seeders. Also, from what we looked at most file hosters required you to login to get premium download speeds. We didn't want to force people to do that.

[Skylock]

I understand what you're stating Virtus. Not enough seeders is an issue which is reliant on each and every one of us contributing. I will say this, though, if it was officiated that the servers were going to wipe and be back up for legitimate, permanent play you would see me lining up to seed the files for other players. I want to play this game, as do many other people lurking in the shadows wishing for the answer to appear and tapping their feet waiting patiently (or not so patiently as some are wont to do). In regards to the other issue, I've seen stated many times throughout the forums that the devs "Do not wish to force" any of the players to do this or that. At this current time, the state of the game is forcing ALL of us to not get to play. Which is the greater evil? Again, I want to emphasize here that this is all said in good faith and only for the purpose of adding possibilities and thoughts. I am not mad at the developers, they have made a game that I have longed for years to play. In the end I just do not really see unsolvable issues, just statements of potential drawbacks that are experiencing an unwillingness to be overcome. As always, the devs will do what they feel is best in the spirit of their game. I will wait as patiently as I can, but I will not restrict myself from making suggestions to try to speed the process. Best of luck!

[Trigun]

if we were go towards a plan like Trigun suggests the problem right now is not enough seeders. Also, from what we looked at most file hosters required you to login to get premium download speeds. We didn't want to force people to do that.

btw seeders aren't the most important in a torrent ^^
peer too share the data that have already downloaded... this will faster the process... btw 1 permanent seeder (the server) + all others is better than download all from the server
the worst case is 1 seed (the server) 1 peer [O(log n)] .. but this worst case is better than the actual worst case (1 seed and XXXX peer) [O(n)]

[Psyknx]

if we were go towards a plan like Trigun suggests the problem right now is not enough seeders. Also, from what we looked at most file hosters required you to login to get premium download speeds. We didn't want to force people to do that.

No premium download speeds is bad but putting them all on a barely playable server isnt?
I rather download the client slow than having to ''play'' like this.