Hi, I'm your not so-friend that ___

[MrKrueak]

No doubt....

I can fly orcas and freighters now finally on my industy toon...just cannot afford orcas and freighters......lol! some day...

isk is easy to come by if you know how, unfortunately the fastest and easiest way for most was to simply to farm the higher tiered missions and then salvage said mission. Trading is probably the second fastest and easiest but if you have a large ammount to invest in trading than it could quickly become the fastest by far. 0.0 mining is probably the third fastest but not easiest way to make isk unless you are in an alliance or protected access to 0.0 if you were friendly with one then it could be the fastest if you had the skills as it could easly bring in 50 to 100 mil an hour but the problem is most of the time you are mining 0.0 for your alliance wars not money.

[furanku]

Players like Furanku come and go quickly in games. They come in, spout some crap about camping the hell out of you, try it for a while in game, get bored and leave. Saying you 'PvP' is not a cool, edgy thing to make your e-peen extra large to your ilk, it makes you look like a child to the rest of us. Camping people until they log off may be funny and enjoyful for you and your 5 or so followers, but, in reality, it's childsplay, and griefing.

I'm sure you will run as an evil entity. That's cool. Be warned you will respawn at your own totem, meanwhile, non-evil aligned will spawn right in front of you while you are patting yourself on the back, and kill you. I'm glad you have come to play, you have lots of running to do. Oh, and if you roll a good or neutral char and start PK'ing random toons, you will be reverted to evil (planned anyhow).

The whole "20 times an hour" theory is just an example of griefing, not the defacto standard. I'm sure more then half of Furanku's list will coming under the heading of griefing.

BTW, welcome Furanku, you may not know of the Regulators yet, but you just may very soon.

I agree but for some reason everyone is now thinking that is what I do ^_^ and didn't read what I wrote prpoerly

[Mims44]

You know, I see millions of these posts on every game forum I've ever checked out. One group yells pro PvP the other Yells PvE only. and then theres the "compromise" group that want PvE and really watered down PvP.
I honestly am still a little surprised at the amount of crying on these forums though, as xsyon is well below normal range on griefers/PvPers. And it will likely stay below normal range due to all the other aspects of the game. I have played a pretty good chunk of whats to offer out there and the games with the least substance often have the worst griefing problem. (IE: Darkfall)

All the people crying here should go check out DF, or Asheron's Call Darktide server. If your complaining about this you might decide to take a bath with your toaster after a week on those games.

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A few things to think about before/after/during your tear filled posts:
1. Noob areas are always the worst, some people don't care about building up a char. and just want a cheap thrill.
2. These guys will not be improving, or at least not at a normal rate. Run like hell out of the starter zone and play smart. It'll be just like PvE except with some added flavor and not just clicking 2 buttons over and over as your mind slowly deteriorates from stagnation.
3. Playing solo is HARD. be prepared to constantly give ground.
4. most "PvPers" are purely opportunists, if your with a group or even appear as a hard target beforehand they'll likely stick to the shadows or approach you as a friend.
5. Like womens self defense course. Stop thinking like a victim. it seems like a majority of you strict PvE types play to lose, you play scared which sucks the fun out of the game for you.
***
This is all likely a moot point since talking someone out of their PvP preference is like talking someone out of their sexual or religious preference.


Just try and think a little as you play the game, MMOs dont have [easy][normal][hard] switch toggles. Stop assuming the game is set to [easy], or that it should be so you can more easily multi-task drinking a beer watching lord of the rings and downloading porn without fear of losing that plastic scrap pile.

[fflhktsn]

You know, I see millions of these posts on every game forum I've ever checked out. One group yells pro PvP the other Yells PvE only. and then theres the "compromise" group that want PvE and really watered down PvP.
I honestly am still a little surprised at the amount of crying on these forums though, as xsyon is well below normal range on griefers/PvPers. And it will likely stay below normal range due to all the other aspects of the game. I have played a pretty good chunk of whats to offer out there and the games with the least substance often have the worst griefing problem. (IE: Darkfall)

All the people crying here should go check out DF, or Asheron's Call Darktide server. If your complaining about this you might decide to take a bath with your toaster after a week on those games.

....

A few things to think about before/after/during your tear filled posts:
1. Noob areas are always the worst, some people don't care about building up a char. and just want a cheap thrill.
2. These guys will not be improving, or at least not at a normal rate. Run like hell out of the starter zone and play smart. It'll be just like PvE except with some added flavor and not just clicking 2 buttons over and over as your mind slowly deteriorates from stagnation.
3. Playing solo is HARD. be prepared to constantly give ground.
4. most "PvPers" are purely opportunists, if your with a group or even appear as a hard target beforehand they'll likely stick to the shadows or approach you as a friend.
5. Like womens self defense course. Stop thinking like a victim. it seems like a majority of you strict PvE types play to lose, you play scared which sucks the fun out of the game for you.
***
This is all likely a moot point since talking someone out of their PvP preference is like talking someone out of their sexual or religious preference.


Just try and think a little as you play the game, MMOs dont have [easy][normal][hard] switch toggles. Stop assuming the game is set to [easy], or that it should be so you can more easily multi-task drinking a beer watching lord of the rings and downloading porn without fear of losing that plastic scrap pile.

Hooray another person gets it....thank you

all well laid out and easy to read too

[MrKrueak]

maybe i'll just play a female character so instead of the griefers ganking me constantly they would just hit on me while i laugh.

[furanku]

Also why do players like me come and go ? lol

[darg75]

I wanted to post something cool; but probably failed. ^_^

I dunno, the OP gave me a laugh. Disappointed that your other posts in the thread weren't of the same calibre.

[MrKrueak]

Also why do players like me come and go ? lol

personally i don't like personalizing this as others are doing so this response has nothing to do with you but pker's in general. reason i say pker's come and go is because the majority of them just move to the next new mmo and are not here to truely experience what the world is meant to be, they consider it wasting time until the next one.

like i said before there are 2 crowds of players in the pvp group.

true pvp players which are the ones here to enjoy the world, tribal warfare etc.
pker's are simply here to ruin the enjoyment of others.

i'm not saying you are either group as i never met you ingame and don't base my opinions on a forum war.

[furanku]

I dunno, the OP gave me a laugh. Disappointed that your other posts in the thread weren't of the same calibre.

/facepalm

[furanku]

personally i don't like personalizing this as others are doing so this response has nothing to do with you but pker's in general. reason i say pker's come and go is because the majority of them just move to the next new mmo and are not here to truely experience what the world is meant to be, they consider it wasting time until the next one.

like i said before there are 2 crowds of players in the pvp group.

true pvp players which are the ones here to enjoy the world, tribal warfare etc.
pker's are simply here to ruin the enjoyment of others.

i'm not saying you are either group as i never met you ingame and don't base my opinions on a forum war.

When I play a game, I play it to the fullest, as if there is no other game, however in the end if the game is broken it is hard to keep playing or if tthere are major cheaters which you cannot counter-attack (speedhacking) I quit after a while of trying to defend myself but its diffcult but generally I stay with a game as long as I can.