Don't Listen to "FFA PvP All The Time!"

[Farseer]

I'll put it simply: This would ruin the game.

A good sandbox game has to be a mix of PvE, worldbuilding, politics, crafting and PvP.

If these idiots want constant PvP, they can go play and FPS.

Look at EvE Online, the most successful sandbox game in the world at the minute. It has VERY harsh PvP and yet it's PvP isn't constantly "turned on". It's only in lower security areas that you can get real PvP without NPC intervention.

Ultima Online was the same, Star Wars Galaxies was the same etc etc.

Don't go the route of Darkfall and fail at sandbox gameplay by making it purely PvP.

I'm still waiting for my paycheck to come at the end of the month to buy this game, but then I'm certainly signing up. If you implemented the PvP changes these shortsighted fools suggested (look at Darkfall, all wolves and no sheep which leads to the game kinda sucking, look at Mortal Online too), I wouldn't be signing up.

I know a lot of other people who feel the same way.

That's all.

Farseer out.

[Niburu]

Even darkfall has safe NPC towns....

[Farseer]

Even darkfall has safe NPC towns....

Which were bitched about for ages. Safe NPC towns really aren't enough.

This, this, a thousand times this.

I still play Mortal and all it is is e-peen wagging and the scum of the Earth trolling each other 24/7. Everyone except a select few is red and all the reds do is go about killing new players which has stunted the growth of the game's population. Do not give in to the short-sighted PvPers; they will kill this game just like they are doing to Mortal.

FFA PVP everywhere all the time will attract the cancer from Mortal once they finish beating the dead horse over there. That is the last thing this game needs.

Sadly, from what I've heard, this stuff has been happening in Xsyon, too. Random people running around naked ganking using collector's edition weapons so they have no chance to lose anything.

You know people just want to grief when they don't really want to PvP, just to gank for rewards wih no risk.

[Chavoda]

Which were bitched about for ages. Safe NPC towns really aren't enough.



Sadly, from what I've heard, this stuff has been happening in Xsyon, too. Random people running around naked ganking using collector's edition weapons so they have no chance to lose anything.

You know people just want to grief when they don't really want to PvP, just to gank for rewards wih no risk.

Alignment system is not on yet and its pre-launch beta game play.. alot of players just are bored and steal pants or someting.. do not mistake beta boredom whit actual launch game play. will random pvp killing happen, yup there will be but it will soon be much less after launch.

[Farseer]

Alignment system is not on yet and its pre-launch beta game play.. alot of players just are bored and steal pants or someting.. do not mistake beta boredom whit actual launch game play. will random pvp killing happen, yup there will be but it will soon be much less after launch.

Alignment systems don't really do anything unless it involves some pretty serious penalties to PKers.

[Jadzia]

@OP:
Don't worry, this is not the first influx of Darkfall players (I mean the ganker type, not the honest players), and the lead developer never listened to them. He has a strong vision of the game and he sticks to it. Perhaps they might get an FFA PvP server with no safe zones, I support the idea. It shouldn't be an expensive hardware though, since it will get empty in 2 months anyway.

[jumpshot]

Alignment system is not on yet and its pre-launch beta game play.. alot of players just are bored and steal pants or someting.. do not mistake beta boredom whit actual launch game play. will random pvp killing happen, yup there will be but it will soon be much less after launch.

Honestly this more than anything.


And as a side note the PvP and feelign of danger it provides in darkfall rules It's downside is lack of sand in the sandbox.

Also as a side note it has tons of safezones, so really citing it constantly just shows that some people will complain until PvP is turned off completely.

It's okay if some peopel want to play single player games. It's also okay that some people want to play FPSes. It would be nice if both groups would stop trying ot make every game they play into their preferred type.

[Farseer]

And as a side note the PvP and feelign of danger it provides in darkfall rules It's downside is lack of sand in the sandbox.

Also as a side note it has tons of safezones, so really citing it constantly just shows that some people will complain until PvP is turned off completely.

It's okay if some peopel want to play single player games. It's also okay that some people want to play FPSes. It would be nice if both groups would stop trying ot make every game they play into their preferred type.

It has "tons of safezones"? You do realise those zones don't work if your guild is at war with their's, right? And lots of players run around in a single man guild declaring war on everyone else?

Most people want to play a co-operative game with some competitive elements. Not Darkfail v2.0.

[Proto]

Which were bitched about for ages. Safe NPC towns really aren't enough.

Worked in Shadowbane for years.

Sadly, from what I've heard, this stuff has been happening in Xsyon, too. Random people running around naked ganking using collector's edition weapons so they have no chance to lose anything.

You know people just want to grief when they don't really want to PvP, just to gank for rewards wih no risk.

There will be griefers in any system, if it's not someone griefing you in pvp, they'll be chopping down the trees at your village etc, and if there's a way for crafters to exploit resources, you can bet there'll be the plenty that do it. Statistical outliers.

[Otto]

This, this, a thousand times this.

I still play Mortal and all it is is e-peen wagging and the scum of the Earth trolling each other 24/7. Everyone except a select few is red and all the reds do is go about killing new players which has stunted the growth of the game's population. Do not give in to the short-sighted PvPers; they will kill this game just like they are doing to Mortal.

FFA PVP everywhere all the time will attract the cancer from Mortal once they finish beating the dead horse over there. That is the last thing this game needs.