Originally Posted by
ifireallymust
Dubanka, who exactly is calling for an end to open PvP outside our 'mud huts' as you say?
I have yet to see anyone argue for an end to open PvP.
Griefers, however, are not tolerated. It is up to the staff and not the players, however, to determine what constitutes griefing. Dontaze's OP is a perfect example of why it's the staff of Notorious who decide whether or not something is griefing.
Dontaze ended the post with: Who can think of more ways to hurt people without actually hurting them?
The sentence has at least four possible interpretations:
1. Dontaze wants to find ways to hurt people without actually hurting them means Dontaze wants to make the person controlling the character angry in ways other than killing their character, since he can't get to their character in their safe zone, and since at the moment, pvp is entirely off. This might be considered griefing, since it is aimed at the player and not the character and is intended to evoke a negative emotional reaction in the player. And Dontaze intended to communicate his intention to evoke those emotions in people and did so in his post.
2. Dontaze wants to find ways to evoke a negative emotional reaction in other players but did not intend to be so up front about it in his wording.
3. Dontaze neither wants to evoke negative emotional reactions in other players, nor did he intend to mislead others into thinking he does want to.
4. Dontaze does not want to evoke negative emotional reactions in other players, but he did intend to mislead others into thinking that he does want to. (This might be considered trolling, depending on his reasons for being misleading.)
As a player, I have no way of knowing which of the four applies. But the staff has access to information I don't, such as who is Dontaze in game, what other accounts are owned by Dontaze and/or members of his household, what else has Dontaze said on this issue, what has Dontaze done in game?
If Dontaze is actually accused in game of griefing, I'm sure his posts will be taken into consideration when it's time to determine if the accusation has merit.