Now, I don't usually bother to engage in one of those "line by line demolitions of someone's inane argument", because all the necessary quoting takes up a lot of page space, but you are really asking for it.
Note the pointless insult! So, at this point in the discussion, you have just committed yourself to a ridiculous claim that players don't police the game in MMORPGs, and you challenge us to provide an example of a game where players did police the game. We are about to do exactly that. The discussion continues:Originally Posted by Zenmaster13
Originally Posted by VicidWe both let you know that we've both actually played actual games where players actually do this. You remain unconvinced:Originally Posted by Sirius
Note that your actual challenge ("Please back that up") only takes four words, yet you explode into a rambling paragraph of insults. Note also, the pointless insults!Originally Posted by Zenmaster13
You're being baited, giving you the opportunity to further dig yourself into a hole because you're so sure you're right.Originally Posted by Vicid
Seems like you realized you were about to be shown wrong, because you've already changed your argument to something that is easily disproven. This is called a "straw man argument". We never said we've played a game that literally had players policing the game 24/7. As I noted later, this wasn't necessary in Shadowbane, because siege and mine activity was restricted to primetime for NA players. A few solid hours a night was sufficient.Originally Posted by Zenmaster13
Further explanation that yeah, VD has actually been there and actually done that (along with countless other SB players).Originally Posted by Vicid
Even more detailed explanation that yeah, VD has actually been there and actually done that (along with countless other SB players).Originally Posted by Dubanka
More pointless insults and irrelevant comments from you! I'm sure even you will notice that you didn't even attempt to rebut our argument. But you do somehow suggest that because Shadowbane didn't keep running forever, "obviously player policing didn't help". (Not that that makes any sense.) Regardless, Shadowbane was up for over 6 years.Originally Posted by
Me pointing out your straw man argument. It was, simply put, unnecessary to have "24/7 policing". And, again, we never said we did that. The "24/7" thing didn't come until you changed your argument midway through the conversation.Originally Posted by Sirius
Note the pointless insults as you add further straw to your straw man. So now it's not just "policing the server", nor even "policing the server 24/7", it's "policing the server 24/7 to 'full effect' in total absence of any GMs or other non-player policing". You've now changed your straw man into something incredibly easy to knock down – yet another argument we never made and would never make. And again, all you offer in response to our actual examples of effective player policing is insults. You've just been proven wrong, yet you are sitting there calling people names and declaring that you're right. It's cute, in an annoying, stupid way.Originally Posted by Zenmaster13
So, you have just been shown examples of a game in which players policed the server effectively.
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And the gameplay dynamics that emerged as a result were much better than what would emerge if the trend were to rely on the devs to make a nanny state rather than empowering players to take care of business on their own.
Quoted strictly for the lolz factor of seeing you engage in yet more petty insults without having made a single line of genuine argument.Originally Posted by Zenmaster13