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    @Bo agreed

    @Haphazard, you mentioned something that was key here, bored. If it's for a reason is one thing, on purpose wrecking a game out of boredom is most certainly a form of griefing, go do something else if you're bored, read a book, watch a movie, play another video game until this one fits your needs, but doing stuff like wrecking a game, because of a bad mechanic or boredom fits no ones needs except the selfish douch bag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    What you describe doesn't sound like Greifing (sic).

    You have obviously never beef griefed, it sounds unfortunate that your neighbors and tribemates can't stomach actually playing the game and removing the offending player. I assume the offender did this because they were either very bored, or you all did something to piss them off. Without being able to burn down their home you are helpless to this kind of activity.

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    Here's my suggestion to the OP and anyone who is in a similar situation. Go out and stop him! Geez. We've had a number of people attempt to do the same thing to us, and if we notice they are planning to take every tree for themselves, we try to talk to them first, and if they don't respond we take action. The safe zones already protect any resources from outsiders, so anything outside of that border is fair game, period. And, that's how it should be.

    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. If you don't want to get walked over, get out there and do something to stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexTaldren View Post
    Here's my suggestion to the OP and anyone who is in a similar situation. Go out and stop him! Geez. We've had a number of people attempt to do the same thing to us, and if we notice they are planning to take every tree for themselves, we try to talk to them first, and if they don't respond we take action. The safe zones already protect any resources from outsiders, so anything outside of that border is fair game, period. And, that's how it should be.

    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. If you don't want to get walked over, get out there and do something to stop them.
    Would be nice if you would also tell the OP what to do in place of only to say to do "something". And no, killing the offender is not something that helps, he will just be back 5 minutes later - or when you're not online.

  4. #4
    If there are 7-8 clans in the area, you think you cant defend again one "dbag"? My guild had a similar problem, so we engaged the offending tribe, and our neighbours engaged the offending tribe, and we kicked their ass all the way back to their totem. And yeh, now we know where THEY live. Can't say we've had the problem since. Theres a whole thread about it in the flame wars forum, but it may make your eyes bleed reading it, lmao.

    7-8 clans should seriously grow some and just kill the "dbag", I would suggest repeatedly. Just stop whining on the forum and do something about it in game.

    To remove the problem though, so it cant be a grief tactic anymore, a forestry mechanic would be good, so we can plant our own plantations for harvesting timber.

  5. #5
    Just make trees re-grow faster. You can not be online 24/7 to stop those guys from cutting down your trees if they want to.

    Apart from that that form of griefing is allowed in Xsyon as confirmed by guides and devs talking through guides. It is a legitimate tactis to cut down trees and terraform the place around those you want to grief.

    But the world is very large so moving somewhere else unless you want to fight them is an option (just fight them back with few friends, griefers have durability of dead butterfly and tend to give up as soon as there is any kind of resistance, even verbal one)

  6. #6
    my god back to world of warcraft guys this game is not for you

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    Easy solution. If i cut down a tree, i should NOT, have the option to delete a log. Period. To delete a log, you only should do it on your TRIBE LAND. So if i went outside my tribe to cut down a tree. I should take that log and bring it back to the tribeland to delete. Thats a real reasonable behaviour.

    Its all about balance, balance, balance.
    Cutting down trees, should take alot of energy. So if the person cut down 2-3 trees right now, the bar is still at full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plague View Post
    Just make trees re-grow faster. You can not be online 24/7 to stop those guys from cutting down your trees if they want to.

    Apart from that that form of griefing is allowed in Xsyon as confirmed by guides and devs talking through guides. It is a legitimate tactis to cut down trees and terraform the place around those you want to grief.

    But the world is very large so moving somewhere else unless you want to fight them is an option (just fight them back with few friends, griefers have durability of dead butterfly and tend to give up as soon as there is any kind of resistance, even verbal one)
    Again, they aren't YOUR trees. YOUR trees are only those within your safe zone. All other trees are free game. If someone comes along, cuts down a tree outside your border, and hauls the logs back to their camp, it is theirs. Get it? You aren't entitled to everything inside your safe zone and everything just outside it as well. The same applies for junk piles, grass, and anything else that is finite. When the developers code in a tree regrowth system or allow us to plant our own trees, things will be just fine. Until then, I suggest you grow a pair and take it to this so-called "griefer."

    Quote Originally Posted by xyberviri View Post
    Alex and his bunch did come over to Apache and cut down all the trees around our tribe, they didn't cut them into logs and destroy them but they did cut them down so i guess that's allowed.

    Thats cause Hopi is bored from what has been whispered.

    the cutting to logs and destroy them is considered griefing.

    Cutting down logs to stock pile the resources isn't griefing btw so if there actually using them you have no valid argument.
    Cut down all the trees? Wrong. A homesteader named Krimara cut down a single, solitary tree, which you guys promptly cut into long logs and stored away in your resource area. So, if anything, Krimara helped you out. Other than that, none of the trees in your area were logged by Hopi. We don't play that way, sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by joexxxz View Post
    Easy solution. If i cut down a tree, i should NOT, have the option to delete a log. Period. To delete a log, you only should do it on your TRIBE LAND. So if i went outside my tribe to cut down a tree. I should take that log and bring it back to the tribeland to delete. Thats a real reasonable behaviour.

    Its all about balance, balance, balance.
    Cutting down trees, should take alot of energy. So if the person cut down 2-3 trees right now, the bar is still at full.
    Great idea.

  9. #9
    My Mistake, i was under the impression Kimara was one of your guys since he seemed so buddy buddy with you all.
    That player that poped up on the scrap pile and started terraforming wasn't one of your either right?

    I just want to be clear what peeps are doing what for the big tribes.

  10. #10
    Actualy Alex 2 of your guys Armand and Rhodes came over to our new tribe spot and wiped out every single tree and deleted most of them. I consider it griefing they not only affected our tribe they affected all the tribes around us. Oh you say stop them? How can we stop them when they did it after we logged out for the night. So in my book it is a form of griefing. They were also killing us if we stepped out of our protected zones.The best part of this is none of us have ever killed anyone.

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