Page 14 of 15 FirstFirst ... 412131415 LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 148

Thread: Some critics

  1. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubanka View Post
    there is a 6 digit playerbase out there waiting for an open world / sandbox / ffa game done right.

    done right means a game with balanced economic, political, and warfare systems.

    done right means having a system that promotes conflict yet at the same time, provides a 'safe' path for those that would prefer to not risk as much (insert risk reward discussion that we've had a couple times).

    done right means having design elements that encourage players to interact with one another to achieve certain goals...goals that are defined by individual players needs and wants.

    done right means a system designed so players have to tools to deal with most issues themselves.

    I gotta say, I don't have a lot of faith that the game will get done right. The contingent that remains, is mostly 'happy' with the status quo of build, craft, scavange, oh-my. PvP features that get introduced will not be thoroughly tested...primarily because i don't see many of the pvp folks coming back to pay-to-test...and unless systems are thoroughly tested, well, we end up where we started when us new folks showed up rabid for a game that looked a lot like modern day UO (it wasn't pretty). Anyway, don't actually care too much anymore...just trying to finish up the vd temple before my time runs out. /tip


    I think you are missing the.

    "Dear Jesus" and "Amen"

    Preach it, we can only dream one day.
    MrDDT



    "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
    -Sun-tzu


  2. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT View Post
    I think you are missing the.

    "Dear Jesus" and "Amen"

    Preach it, we can only dream one day.
    Those things are superfluous when preaching to the choir.

  3. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Book View Post
    Those things are superfluous when preaching to the choir.
    I do try to show respect to my elders =P
    MrDDT



    "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
    -Sun-tzu


  4. #134
    Xsyon Citizen Creator's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Xsyon - z739
    Posts
    168
    done right...

    In order for the done right... is to make everyone happy, is to make a game superior to real life, where the only reason one would consider to leave is to go to work and occasionally sleep and eat.

    done right... is a virtual utopia, that is what you are saying, what most of you are discussing, the "always wanting more..." factor.

    People bitch and whine about wow, but it sells cause though at the end of the day it is what the majority feels is.... "done right".

    I want a working combat system, I want shit to kill, and gas masks...
    Unless if I am mistaken, what most of you want is real life... but a twisted version of it, a version you feel is fair, a version which suits yourself.

    One which complete opposite copies exist in the same place, at the same time.

    I think what is done right is...

    - working combat
    - weapons, buildings, equipment, transport and ways to produce/place them
    - shit to kill, people to kill

    ... is not everyones version of done right.

    No Rules, No Safe Zones...

    However what some of you think is done right is something different, some of you vastly different. But this game cannot be.. "Everything" there has to be a realistic expectation.

    I know what I say sounds offensive, it sounds... accusatory maybe to... but I want you to understand a perspective, that you have two options...

    A game which fits us, you, most of us here... or a game which fits a 6 figure player base, which is vastly different... No matter how good something is, someone will always get bored, someone will always bitch, complain, whine, and say it... isn't, done... right!


    While xsyon has a long long way to go before being "done right" in anyones opinion... we should focus on what we do like, what is "done right" and what can be added on top of those solid foundations to make the game more immersive, enjoyable and retains more players without watering down the experience.

    EDIT: I do not believe watering down the experience with safe zones, or bunches of player conduct rules.. is the right path. Either you want realism, how safety is acquired rl, or you want Wow... so take your pick.

    "Here to help the community, save the newbs, save the game!" - Creator

  5. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Perefim View Post
    A game which fits us, you, most of us here... or a game which fits a 6 figure player base, which is vastly different... No matter how good something is, someone will always get bored, someone will always bitch, complain, whine, and say it... isn't, done... right!


    While xsyon has a long long way to go before being "done right" in anyones opinion... we should focus on what we do like, what is "done right" and what can be added on top of those solid foundations to make the game more immersive, enjoyable and retains more players without watering down the experience.
    So you suggest to make an official poll (through emails probably) to figure out what 'most of us' like Plus the devs should ask their aimed playerbase as well what they would like. Then ask the devs if they are willing to make a game like that. Isn't this called market research ?

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by Jadzia View Post
    So you suggest to make an official poll (through emails probably) to figure out what 'most of us' like Plus the devs should ask their aimed playerbase as well what they would like. Then ask the devs if they are willing to make a game like that. Isn't this called market research ?
    I think better is to just have the devs say what they want, and then allow players to give feed back to help mold that view.
    Oh wait he did that already.
    MrDDT



    "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
    -Sun-tzu


  7. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT View Post
    I think better is to just have the devs say what they want, and then allow players to give feed back to help mold that view.
    Oh wait he did that already.
    Why ? That way he would get to know 10-15 players opinions only. Thats not representative in any way.
    I prefer what SE did with FFXIV...2 huge polls where they asked every player who bought the game. Now thats what I call feedback.

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by Jadzia View Post
    Why ? That way he would get to know 10-15 players opinions only. Thats not representative in any way.
    I prefer what SE did with FFXIV...2 huge polls where they asked every player who bought the game. Now thats what I call feedback.
    Thanks for your opinion.

    Prefer to see a way where people can discuss and find a possible working away. Instead of having a poll of limited options that may or may not work.
    Polls by email are very very limited in scope thus giving very little feedback.

    Plus how does that reach out to people that have not bought or signed up for the game yet? You cant get everyone. I would much rather have a few well informed people of Xsyon hammer out details of how to get a system working within guidelines (from the devs ideas/thoughts).

    But hey that's just me. Maybe a poll is best. So that the 13k people that have signed up you might get 1/3 of those to reply in a limited poll. (Which options should be in this poll again? haha)
    MrDDT



    "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
    -Sun-tzu


  9. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDDT View Post
    Thanks for your opinion.

    Prefer to see a way where people can discuss and find a possible working away. Instead of having a poll of limited options that may or may not work.
    Polls by email are very very limited in scope thus giving very little feedback.

    Plus how does that reach out to people that have not bought or signed up for the game yet? You cant get everyone. I would much rather have a few well informed people of Xsyon hammer out details of how to get a system working within guidelines (from the devs ideas/thoughts).

    But hey that's just me. Maybe a poll is best. So that the 13k people that have signed up you might get 1/3 of those to reply in a limited poll. (Which options should be in this poll again? haha)
    You are again arguing the wrong person. I replied to Perefim who would like to see implemented that 'most of us' like. The only way to get to know what most of us like is to ask it. Ask everyone, not a selected few. I'm not saying this should happen, but if they do want to know what the playerbase want that is the only way.

  10. #140
    B.E. had this built into the game which was pretty handy. Every time you would log in you would answer a poll question. Once you answered one the next time a new one would appear.

    I'm not saying things should be decided solely on this basis. But it sure did make me feel like my opinion mattered.

    EDIT: In the spirit of full disclosure I should state that I later found out my opinion didn't matter. hehe

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •