Xyson business model

[trenixdecease]

This model will fail, because nothing that you own in a Sandbox Crafting MMORPG is certain. Therefore if you stop playing for a few years and return, most likely everything you worked for is now gone. So what's the point of ever coming back when you spent all that money on monthly fees and it couldn't even save your progress. Take for example an regular MMORPG, the only thing that matters is your character and your items. Both your character and your items are stored and you'll get it back whenever you return to the game. However in Xsyon, there is much more to this game than characters and items. Before you know it, your whole city can be gone. It's fun gameplay, but horrible for a monthly subscription. Find a way to make money off of cosmetics, it's the only free to play model that works. Restrictions just make people angry, so it's best to not have it at all.

[GuideHael]

If you let your sub slip you go down to 30 in skills but if you login regularly you can keep your tribe from going down. So basically you can keep all your gear, skills, and items by simply logging in once a month "without a sub". What games allow you to do that?

[MrDDT]

Its not even once a month, its once every 2 months. If all you care about is your totem its once every 3 months.

Also in Xsyon you can log off with 1090 stacks of items. 90 slots for your pouches and bin on your back + 20 (20x50 = 1000) slot cart = 1090
Which will allow you to keep ALL your stats, and 1090 STACKS of items unlimited amount of time. Not counting you could make a free account give them a cart and load them up and log off also so you can store unlimited items, unlimited amount of time.

How many games does this for you? I'm sorry to say but Xsyon does a great job at protecting people and their tribes. If you are in a large tribe and you quit the game for 2+ months and your whole tribe quits for 2+ months, I would expect everything to be gone also. I know of no other game that allows you to do that.

Find a way to make money off of cosmetics, it's the only free to play model that works. Restrictions just make people angry, so it's best to not have it at all.

So all those games like WOW and stuff that have a monthly sub, are not "working"? Subscription models work just fine, and I happen to like them better than some free to play game where you have kids running around all day.

[Jorias]

Only a handful will actually pay a subscription.

I actually hope this is the case...weeds out the d-bagging griefers....

[trenixdecease]

If you let your sub slip you go down to 30 in skills but if you login regularly you can keep your tribe from going down. So basically you can keep all your gear, skills, and items by simply logging in once a month "without a sub". What games allow you to do that?

I don’t see how this little trick is a good thing. If anything, as a subscriber I would be a little annoyed that because someone paid for one month, he is capable of keeping his tribe. This is exactly why these kinds of things just don’t work. Besides, MANY people have other things to do. Like for example, I’m moving and who knows how long it’ll take me to settle down and play some Xsyon. It just doesn’t work well with this type of game.

Compare Wurm Online to Minecraft and notice which model was successful.

Its not even once a month, its once every 2 months. If all you care about is your totem its once every 3 months.

Also in Xsyon you can log off with 1090 stacks of items. 90 slots for your pouches and bin on your back + 20 (20x50 = 1000) slot cart = 1090
Which will allow you to keep ALL your stats, and 1090 STACKS of items unlimited amount of time. Not counting you could make a free account give them a cart and load them up and log off also so you can store unlimited items, unlimited amount of time.

How many games does this for you? I'm sorry to say but Xsyon does a great job at protecting people and their tribes. If you are in a large tribe and you quit the game for 2+ months and your whole tribe quits for 2+ months, I would expect everything to be gone also. I know of no other game that allows you to do that.


So all those games like WOW and stuff that have a monthly sub, are not "working"? Subscription models work just fine, and I happen to like them better than some free to play game where you have kids running around all day.

Very few MMORPGs survived with the buy to play then pay to play model. This is why most became free to play or close down their servers. Besides, while this game may be considered an MMORPG, but’s also a Crafting MMO where all your progress could disappear very easily. It’s hard enough to get people to play a game with this model, because I seriously couldn’t convince any of my friends to do it. Now if I told them they could lose their progress overtime if they don’t play, they’d laugh at me.

[Jorias]

hmm interesting, I didn't think about people that quit with over 30 points in their skills, I agree that this needs to be looked at for people that want to take some sort of extended break from the game. As I do the same thing, I take breaks from games to work on something else in my life or whatnot. Being punished for taking a break seems, well heartless....this should change I think, maybe do something in the effect of being able to lock your account into "vacation" mode, which allows you to freeze all of your skills, but you are unable to access your account and play it for a month.

As far as items are concerned, I agree with the 1090 slot thingy, I mean honestly; you're not going to know what you want to do when you come back from the game 2 years from now, hence you're not going to know what items you're going to need.

[GuideHael]

When you run out of premium play time, your skills go down to 30 if they were above. When you add premium play time to the account they go back to their original state.

[Jorias]

When you run out of premium play time, your skills go down to 30 if they were above. When you add premium play time to the account they go back to their original state.

well then....no complaints from me then...good to know...thanks for the info Guidehael

[GuideHael]

Anytime,

~Guidehael

[patipibo]

I like the game and not realy expansiv in my opinion.
What i miss are alternativ Pay options like direct Debit
cause i forgot wich mail and passwort i used some years ago and cant use paypal >.<

(im not sure if the information would help but this is the service that Dragons Prophet use to loot my money
billingpartner.com/
i already spend 35$ for a few dragon slots and realy feeld pillaged.)

ehmmmm, that all should just say xsyon is the money worth