Don't Listen to "FFA PvP All The Time!"

[Toughluck]

There is a lot of desperation in the postings from the PVP, FFA, All the time, crowd. They have paid their money without fully researching the game. They are spending an enormous amount of time trying to plead and beg the developer to switch the game to their vision. They are on the hook for dragging their guild buddies into a game that is not DFO or MO. Insulting everyone who thinks PVP is be a limited part of the game. I remember DFO and the zergs running around killing single players often many skill levels below them. That was real men's PVP. Few ever wanted the one on one fights against equally matched opponents in case the lost their precious gear.

[Proto]

This, this, a thousand times this.

I still play Mortal and all it is is e-peen wagging and the scum of the Earth trolling each other 24/7. Everyone except a select few is red and all the reds do is go about killing new players which has stunted the growth of the game's population. Do not give in to the short-sighted PvPers; they will kill this game just like they are doing to Mortal.

FFA PVP everywhere all the time will attract the cancer from Mortal once they finish beating the dead horse over there. That is the last thing this game needs.

Pretty sure the shitty game killed the population, not the pvp.

[Proto]

Which were bitched about for ages. Safe NPC towns really aren't enough.

Worked in Shadowbane for years.

Sadly, from what I've heard, this stuff has been happening in Xsyon, too. Random people running around naked ganking using collector's edition weapons so they have no chance to lose anything.

You know people just want to grief when they don't really want to PvP, just to gank for rewards wih no risk.

There will be griefers in any system, if it's not someone griefing you in pvp, they'll be chopping down the trees at your village etc, and if there's a way for crafters to exploit resources, you can bet there'll be the plenty that do it. Statistical outliers.

[Proto]

You mean like in EvE Online, the most successful sandbox out there at the moment?

There's a reason Darkfall only has 5~k subscriptions, and it's probably the same reason you guys left it. Because the plans you're suggesting are moronic.

There's a lot of reasons DF has few subs, don't pin it exclusively on the PVP system, the worst culprit was the fact that they announced the game as the best thing since sliced bread, took 10 years to develop it, and then ruined the faith of their community by implementing a shitty beta and a poor game at release that had 8 bit graphics and massive issues with balance.

[Darkseid]

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[TWINDLE]

it wouldnt ruin the game, in fact it would make it more exciting and knowing you have to watch your back. But your a kitty cat so of course you'll never like it.

[gaidin]

FFA PvP tends to be better in theory than in practice. Communities don't police themselves. Please keep some sensible control on Xsyon so the game can have a viable playerbase.

[JCatano]

There is a lot of desperation in the postings from the PVP, FFA, All the time, crowd. They have paid their money without fully researching the game. They are spending an enormous amount of time trying to plead and beg the developer to switch the game to their vision. They are on the hook for dragging their guild buddies into a game that is not DFO or MO. Insulting everyone who thinks PVP is be a limited part of the game. I remember DFO and the zergs running around killing single players often many skill levels below them. That was real men's PVP. Few ever wanted the one on one fights against equally matched opponents in case the lost their precious gear.

Really?

As I've said many times... The game is advertised as open-PvP with tribal safe zones being removed after Prelude. So, who is actually trying to change Jordi's vision? Who didn't actually research the game? The only people pleading and begging are the ones who want his original idea nixed.

The whole 1v1/equal thing is ridiculous, FYI. If you're dueling... Fine. If you're trying to win, you do what you need to do. It's not going to be any different here. Maybe, you should read "Playing to Win".

[Darkseid]

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Damn, even the mods are forum carebears.
And if the rest of you carebears love PVE so much, go play WoW or one of the 98% of all the other games out there that revolve around handholding and killing mobs and leave one of the very few potenially "hardcore pvp" games to the PVPers!

[Proto]

FFA PvP tends to be better in theory than in practice. Communities don't police themselves. Please keep some sensible control on Xsyon so the game can have a viable playerbase.

This is wholly untrue. The Shadowbane community policed itself for years with no problems until the CN community was too much to overcome long time North American guild differences.

It's an easy practice, someone wrongs you, you burned their city down, or their mines, or you camp their city, or you grief their leveling spots.