A Tribe Can't Fence in a Homestead

[wulvgar]

./unstuck exploit makes walls pointless anyways

[jumpshot]

I like to complain about hypothetical problems that may or may not happen.

[korlion]

lol you can really tell who is from a socialist country and who is not from the peoples post. "Groups should have the most rights"...."one person shouldn't be able to block a group"..

And its not their fault. They were trained from birth to think the group is more important that the single person. Its a way to justify making the few suffer for the many and have the many support it.
the OP was about a person placing a homestead and then having a tribe grow around him and walling him in. For you people thinking the homesteader is only doing it to grief the tribe i have only one thing to say.... damn that homesteader can think way into the furture and is one patient griefer.

[ifireallymust]

lol you can really tell who is from a socialist country and who is not from the peoples post. "Groups should have the most rights"...."one person shouldn't be able to block a group"..

And its not their fault. They were trained from birth to think the group is more important that the single person. Its a way to justify making the few suffer for the many and have the many support it.
the OP was about a person placing a homestead and then having a tribe grow around him and walling him in. For you people thinking the homesteader is only doing it to grief the tribe i have only one thing to say.... damn that homesteader can think way into the furture and is one patient griefer.

Um...I'm a socialist. But I was raised in a non-socialist country (and I still live here, although I don't plan to forever).

I'm kind of fond of happy mediums and people staying off each others toes as much as possible, and I'm always for keeping big guys (whether they're big because they're rich and powerful, or because there's just more of them) off little guys' toes.

[neestas]

You're not socialist. You're asocial.

[Cinhil124a]

holy hell batman hold onto your seats, iv read 4/5 pages of this non-sense, IM A HERMIT and a solo player, fencing in a homestead "SHOULDNT" be allowed but if it is its part of the game, would suck, for any single homestead, but what would u expect ploping yourself down in a zone ripe for a TRIBE... as a solo player like myself get out of their way, go far enough thats comfortable <since feb 18th and all the roll backs/wipes/lost totems iv found 10... yes 10 good spots to plop a totem thats outa everyones way, gives me my actual space, banked on a river and only a 1 1/2 min - 2 min run moderatly loaded to a junk pile...


if your stupid enough to sit there and cry about how you didnt get "YOUR SPOT" on opening day of server, honestly there is a quit button, do me a favor, and half this board use it... dont come back, we dont wanna see you here anymore, just shut up and get over it already

/end rant

[ifireallymust]

I thought I was being sufficiently worried, but I just realized something else. No one will ever be able to stop a tribe siege. They can haul up a totem, be invulnerable at your very walls (if a timer exists granting that to a tribe with a newly placed totem, which wouldn't surprise me), and build right up against your walls to go over them.

So if walls ever do matter, they won't matter to a solo player, they won't stop anyone, not even for two seconds.

Oh, and Cinhil124a, I believe you're a solo player like I believe in Santa Claus. You might be a tribe alt, I suppose, and obviously you're just a troll and not worth my bother, but whatever.

[river111]

I thought I was being sufficiently worried, but I just realized something else. No one will ever be able to stop a tribe siege. They can haul up a totem, be invulnerable at your very walls (if a timer exists granting that to a tribe with a newly placed totem, which wouldn't surprise me), and build right up against your walls to go over them.

So if walls ever do matter, they won't matter to a solo player, they won't stop anyone, not even for two seconds.

Oh, and Cinhil124a, I believe you're a solo player like I believe in Santa Claus. You might be a tribe alt, I suppose, and obviously you're just a troll and not worth my bother, but whatever.

Dont know how to even respond to your stuff anymore man. Really, I'm just starting to think your paranoid or something. So let me see if I get this one right. If I'm a homesteader I shouldnt build walls because some huge tribe is going to purposely build right next to me, landscape up the terrain and plop down a wall of thier own or something that lets them walk right over my walls?

Wow, if I'm that homesteader I must be some seriously important one dude to cause this entire tribe to forceble craft like crazy just to get little ole me. Sure I gues its possible, but really what is the damn point? You really think all these far fetched possibilites are going to be run-amuck everyday occurances to the point it will cause the next apoco-lips? For one guy? On his one little plot of land? You really think your going to be important enough for them to give you a second glance unless you force them to hate you that much?

Like calling Cinhil124a a tribe alt, like he is also out to get you too? Hell I agree with him, if you can't find an open plot out there TODAY then your not looking or you just dont want to look for one. I just created my second character yesterday and went out for less than 2 hours looking for a plot, found 5 I liked, built on the first one I wanted without an issue of being too close to anyone. And I wans't even near the mist. Really he is right though, some people here, that quit button should be starting to look rather good as an option.

EDIT: And I really think you missed the point of the overlap thing too. Tribes and clans start out with a medium sized boundery which cannot be build over. Homesteads can not overlap onto thier terrain. The GROWTH of a tribe can cause a homestead to be ungulfed. In the past the no build zone was set to maximum radius - noone could build in that range even if the tribe never expanded its size enough to obtain its maximum radius. Now, the nofly zone for building has been reduced to the medium range, not maximum. And if a homestead builds on that medium-to-maximum range, then they can be engulfed IF the tribe grows to maximum radius later on.

For what you think will happen to actually happen, either you know your close to a tribe and you chose to stay there no matter the concern of being engulfed later, or that tribe, the entire tribe would have to work together to over come you on purpose. They would have to start the tribe at 10 people and plant thier totem so the medium boundry is exactly at your doorstep. And then add thier remaning members until thier radius grows enough to overcome your homestead. Again, if a tribe of 50 all want to work together for the sole purpose of overtaking YOU on your ONE MAN homestead...you musta REALLY pissed them off and deserver it.

[ifireallymust]

Hey whiny baby tribes, guess where the one place a homesteader like me can plant a totem where we're guaranteed access in and out of our land?

I'll give you a hint. It's the one place you don't want us anywhere near.

That's right, the lake. If nothing else, we can swim to and from our homestead. You can't dam it, you can't fence it, and you can't stop us.

Now go ask politely to NOT be allowed to fence in a homesteader.

I'm tired of being polite, myself.

And river, it's a pvp game. If you happen to not know how the majority of players act in a pvp game when faced with competition for scarce resources, man, I don't know what to say to you and I won't even waste my time trying.

[Bear5732]

move to the mist ifire, your complaints are pointless there.