The problem with private bins outside of homes

[ColonelTEE3]

Someone brought this up in local and i believe in this problem too, but its rarely brought up.

Right now bins can be set to private, and you can throw them down anywhere in the wilderness and no one can do anything about it, except for drop a totem down on it to claim it. This seems a little bit broken.

Another problem that comes along with this is dropping your bags before you die in pvp.

About to lose a duel and all your tools and scavenged rares are on you? No worries, just click and drag your private bin on the ground and die. Come back to pick it up later.

What the hell is this?

If you successfully hide it behind rocks or trees, then great. But if some very perceptive explorer finds it, they shouldn't be stopped by a white texted message of magic.

If you are about to lose a fight, you shouldn't get away scot free. You lost because of the choices leading up to that fight, and because of your inability to defend yourself, so you have to pay a price for that.

Bins outside of tribal or homestead territory SHOULD BE PUBLIC ACCESS TO ALL.

[Armand]

100% agreed.

[meissner61]

I agree but not something they should just brashly deal with, this type of decision requires some thought.

[orious13]

All they have ta do is add locks/lockpicking/thievery.

tooltip~ "The owner of this bag was a boyscout, therefore, you cannot understand how to get passed these freaking knotts. Use your knowledge of thievery? *pulls out some knife* If you cut the bag you might damage some of the items. Proceed? *BONG (can't forget that noise)*"

[ColonelTEE3]

All they have ta do is add locks/lockpicking/thievery.

tooltip~ "The owner of this bag was a boyscout, therefore, you cannot understand how to get passed these freaking knotts. Use your knowledge of thievery? *pulls out some knife* If you cut the bag you might damage some of the items. Proceed? *BONG (can't forget that noise)*"

Or... just publicize all bins outside of territories. Of these two ideas, which do you think is easier, faster, and more likely to be implemented to solve this problem?

[JCatano]

You don't even need a basket.

Jump off of a cliff when people are chasing you and get an instant respawn to totem. Lame.

- All deaths need to leave a corpse behind with loot on it.

- Items need a 5 minute timer after deletion like DF. That way, people can't delete their gear when they know they're going to die. Deleted gear would instantly disappear from the character, but stay in the DB for 5 minutes, so people have a chance to loot after deletion if the person is killed.

[orious13]

Or... just publicize all bins outside of territories. Of these two ideas, which do you think is easier, faster, and more likely to be implemented to solve this problem?

was kidding

[KeithStone]

you shouldn't be able to lock a bin out in the world without a lock period!

[ColonelTEE3]

You don't even need a basket.

Jump off of a cliff when people are chasing you and get an instant respawn to totem. Lame.

- All deaths need to leave a corpse behind with loot on it.

- Items need a 5 minute timer after deletion like DF. That way, people can't delete their gear when they know they're going to die. Deleted gear would instantly disappear from the character, but stay in the DB for 5 minutes, so people have a chance to loot after deletion if the person is killed.

THIS.

It is so bullshit that because of buggy bag mechanics bags close on you when you loot people and wont reopen, and then they just get to keep whatever you were never able to loot. Worst "full loot" ive ever heard of.

[Kinslayer]

100% agree. Vote 1 for no magical bags.